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Message 524 of 953 (859998)
08-05-2019 1:12 AM
Reply to: Message 521 by DrJones*
08-04-2019 11:45 PM


Re: New Hampshire also "infested" according to Trump
Funny. I suppose you aren't aware you are confirming what I just said either, are you?

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Message 536 of 953 (860055)
08-05-2019 11:26 AM
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08-05-2019 8:48 AM


Re: New Hampshire also "infested" according to Trump
Trump should have chosen one that didn't have racist overtones.
But you are the one finding racis overtones in what Trump said, otherwise there is nothing racist in it, it's an accurate description of the conditions he was talking about, and many others have said the same thing. The point is to try to set a fire under the people who might be able to do something about the problems.
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Message 540 of 953 (860083)
08-05-2019 1:13 PM
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08-05-2019 12:55 PM


Re: New Hampshire also "infested" according to Trump
Guilt by association is usually considered to be a false and dangerous standard for judgment of anyone. Unless of course he's Trump, then any old accusation will do.

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Message 556 of 953 (860421)
08-07-2019 3:11 PM


Gosh, a bunch of ugly personal opinions allowed to contradict a simple straightforward description of what Trump actually said. He called for unity but that doesn't matter to the Leftist crowd, he can say whatever he wants he will be called a liar and a racist and a white supremacist be cause the truth is in the Lerftist's head and not in reality.

  
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Message 557 of 953 (860446)
08-07-2019 4:05 PM
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08-07-2019 11:15 AM


Re: Backlash against NYT headline
What did he say about the Democrats when he attacked them? Possibly that they interfere with the unity he was calling for? Hm?

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Message 573 of 953 (860767)
08-11-2019 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 572 by AZPaul3
08-11-2019 5:06 PM


Come back and defend yourself against this false accusation, Hyro
I haven't seen Hyro express anything but normal conservative views, nothing alt right and nothing Nazi, which like "racist" are just the usual smear tactics of the Left. And I certainly hope this false narrative about Trump's supposed connection to Russia finally gets killed but I know how determined the Left is to keep it up.

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Message 581 of 953 (860776)
08-11-2019 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 580 by Hyroglyphx
08-11-2019 7:02 PM


Re: The Nazis Are Coming.
Thank you for arguing this and being sane because if I were alone in this kind of discussion I'd find it very hard to keep my promise to avoid blowing up at people.

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Message 582 of 953 (860777)
08-11-2019 7:21 PM
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08-11-2019 6:44 PM


Re: The Nazis Are Coming.
Has to be a personal attack, doesn't it? Character assassination.
Associating Antifa with respect, help and freedom for people, and associating Hyro with Nazism reminds me of Nazis calling the Jews vermin and The Hutus calling the Tutsis cockroaches and I assume you now where it led in both those cases. Not where you want it to lead, but by then it will be too late to see your error.
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Message 586 of 953 (860790)
08-11-2019 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 583 by AZPaul3
08-11-2019 7:25 PM


Re: The Nazis Are Coming.
When you look at the web sites of each camp what are the positions being advocated?
On the left they are pushing universal healthcare, universal education, jobs programs and welfare....
All of which would cost enormous amounts of money, require taxing us all beyond our tolerance and drive those who can afford it out of the country, while running up the debt which is already going to bankrupt us sooner than we want to think. The Left is all for taking care of everybody without any idea of how they are going to pay for it except the general formula "tax the rich," and again that just motivates the rich to leave while the rest have to pay for it all. It's called spending other people's money until you run out of it. Bleeding hearts lead to bled out bank accounts.
And Trump has done a fantastic job on creating jobs so we don't need any expensive jobs programs.
On the right they are pushing building walls
Which shouldn't be any more controversial than people keeping doors on their houses and choosing whom to invite in, but the Left turns this natural sensible thing into some kind of crime.
more/bigger tax cuts for the super wealthy,
It's called stimulating the economy. If you overtax the wealthy they won't use their money to create the wealth that makes the nation as a whole prosperous, which is what makes it possible to pay for many of the programs the Left wants. This is counterintuitive but in practice it works. The Left spins this as if it benefited only the wealthy themselves, always finding some way to turn practical realistic programs into something selfish, like the wall at the border, which also benefits the nation as a whole, this nation everybody wants to come into because we've had sensible policies that made us wealthy. I have no great ability to understand these things myself but I do know that if all you do is spend and take away people's money to pay for other people you are going to destroy the wealth of the nation and eventually the nation itself.
armed troops
You mean the defense budget? I don't have any way of determining how well funded our military should be but I do know that the world is not full of nice people as you seem to want to believe and at least historically America has been the good guys. I think we still are but the Left has been undermining our ability to be the good guys as well as our image in the eyes of the rest of the world, but then they are mostly all Leftists too.
and concentration camps.
Now that just makes me cry it is such a horrible lying accusation of the best nation that ever existed, the nation that liberated the concentration camps of Germany. And the "cages" at the border were in place under Obama and the people are NOT deprived as in a concentration camp, besides which we didn't put them there, they crashed our border and that's all the facilities we have for taking care of them thanks to insufficient funding. And we provide all kinds of things to take care of them. This is such a horrific lie it hurts and I don't know how any American could say such things. Build the wall, control the borders.
The left is for improving the human condition while the right is for preserving the wealth and dominance of the chosen race.
Amazing how you've put evil for good and good for evil and actually seem to believe it. You call the good guys the Nazis and vice versa and don't even know what you are saying.
The Right knows the realities of what's involved in improving the human condition while the Left has no idea and has policies that can only impoverish the nation and cause the division between us you all make the fault of the Right.
The alt-Reich vids *you* chose to post on this forum were not about helping people in times of dire need but were about preserving the advantages of your white race. And we’re supposed to not see the white supremacy in your message?
I haven't seen the videos I guess but I can tell by the message that this is just the usual racist accusation which is the real racism.
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Message 612 of 953 (862129)
09-01-2019 2:04 PM
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09-01-2019 10:47 AM


Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
It isn't racism, it's the knowledge that Islam aims to take over the world for Allah. That is what you are either denying or ignorant of. If being governed by Islam is your idea of happiness, hey let's make America Muslim as fast as we can, right? Give up all the freedoms, give up freedom of religion, expect to be taxed or killed if you reject Islam, give up any kind of feminist rights. What's not to like? Be happy.
Here are some liberals on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60
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Message 615 of 953 (862139)
09-01-2019 8:43 PM
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09-01-2019 7:54 PM


Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
I'll be dead by the time they take over but I do have grandchildren to think about.
The most you have to worry about Trump is another few years you know. And after that there's some reason to expect we'll have a real Communist revolution. Wouldn't that be fun?
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Message 616 of 953 (862140)
09-01-2019 9:00 PM
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09-01-2019 3:27 PM


Oh now we have to hear the big lie that Christianity is just as bad
Yeah you all hate the actual fact that we were/are a Christian nation, and deny it as well. I've been watching the Netflix series "The Family" about a Christian organization that affects politics in the country, or tries to. One part that interested me particularly was an interview with a Russian Christian who belongs to the group, whose experience in this country led him to declare what a Christian country we are. He said people always tell him that's not true, that Americans are falling away from the churches and so on, but he responded that it's the morality, that the country is still saturated in Christian morality.
By which he meant the friendliness and the tolerance he'd been experiencing among other things, while Russia is full of corruption. Even in the Christian group he himself was trying to form there the people get into fights all the time, and there was film of them punching each other. \
\Anyway I thought that was interesting. What Christian morality is left here now, though, may well be gone as the next few generations take over.
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Message 619 of 953 (862143)
09-01-2019 9:45 PM
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09-01-2019 9:38 PM


Re: Oh now we have to hear the big lie that Christianity is just as bad
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Message 621 of 953 (862149)
09-02-2019 9:44 AM
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09-02-2019 9:10 AM


Re: Oh now we have to hear the big lie that Christianity is just as bad
Oh honestly. The term "fundamentalist" has become some kind of bugaboo that nobody really thinks about. All it means is that the fundamentals of the religion are being followed carefully by those who get called "fundamentalists," and if the fundamentals of the religion are very different from each other, which they are, the comparisons that are always made to claim they are the same thing are just plain ridiculous. The fundamentals of Christianity are FAR from the fundamentals of Islam. The religions couldn't be more different in their fundamentals.
For starters Christians are saved by the sacrifice of Christ so that gratitude is our starting point. Islam is one of the many religions that teach you have to follow the rules of the religion to be saved from hell, or saved into Paradise or whatever the formula is, and in the case of Islam getting saved can mean killing a bunch of "infidels" which makes Allah happy. On the other hand Christ taught dying to self, living for others, taking care of those who can't take care of themselves, doing good in the world for all and so on. Islam teaches some of that, but mostly teaches taking the world for Allah by one means or another, killing Muslims who reject their religion, subjugating nonMuslims, killing Jews and Christians when they are seen as a threat to islam and so on. Mohammed murdered whole community of Jews who refused to convert to his new religion. If anything like that happened in the history of Christianity it happened AGAINST the fundamental teachings of Christianity, but in Islam it IS fundamentalism.
The two different "fundamentalisms" are entirely different.
"Create Armageddon" What on EARTH can that mean? That term applies to a war that is PROPHESIED for the very end of time, which I believe means a whole thousand years after Christ's second coming. It is not part of His second coming as I understand it but somehow it is taken to refer to something that is to come soon. In any case nobody I know of even mentions "Armageddon," it's a popular idea rather than a Christian teaching. When we talk of the end times we first of all think of the Rapture of believers, then the coming of the Antichrist to rule the world. Armageddon doesn't enter into this scenario, but even if it did it would be at the very end of it, then end of a chain of events that may be more of a threat than that war anyway.
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Message 623 of 953 (862151)
09-02-2019 10:16 AM
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09-02-2019 10:04 AM


Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
I think this bizarre paranoia about Trump is probably going to be the cause of more dangerous stuff than anything Trump or his supporters do. The fantasies about him are made up of politically motivated lies to try to turn people against him, or fake news, and unfortunately they are believed by the followers of the people who concoct them. He's basically a good guy who wants to do good for the country, but his politics aren't the politics of the Left and the Left makes up a persona for him that is so far from the truth THAT's what's scary, and that's really the whole story of how the nation is going to collapse.
Well no, to that has to be added the growing Communist frame of mind of the Left, and the total incomprehension about what islam is, and maybe that is the whole story, or maybe there's more.
It's of course the Left that is destroying the Constitution, I guess because of revisionist leftist interpretations.
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