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Faith 
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Message 2671 of 5796 (861326)
08-19-2019 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 2667 by Minnemooseus
08-19-2019 7:49 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
I object to Congress and the Supreme Court. Send them all home without pay. Oh and the Ninth District Court too.
Or it's really the liberals/leftists I object to so I'm for sending them home and keeping the conservatives.
HOWEVER, though it shouldn't need saying, killing a child in the womb is a matter of conscience that no one should be forced to pay for. The other stuff is just necessary requirements for running the government. Even if I think we might be better off if it stopped running altogether.
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Message 2672 of 5796 (861334)
08-20-2019 7:13 AM
Reply to: Message 2664 by Percy
08-19-2019 6:04 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
I guess this means Planned Parenthood isn't in it just for the money after all.

It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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JonF
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Message 2673 of 5796 (861338)
08-20-2019 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 2662 by AZPaul3
08-19-2019 5:34 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
I believe there are times to respond to violence with violence. But I'm against initiating violence.

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JonF
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Message 2674 of 5796 (861339)
08-20-2019 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 2671 by Faith
08-19-2019 10:59 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
I object to Congress and the Supreme Court. Send them all home without pay. Oh and the Ninth District Court too.
Wow, you really do hate our entire system of government. Right-wingers used to at least pay lip service to the Constitution and rule of law. Remember when Republicans were the law and order party?
No more.
But you could move to Nicaragua. No abortions allowed. Of course there are plenty of illegal abortions, because there's no way to get rid of all abortions.

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JonF
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Message 2675 of 5796 (861340)
08-20-2019 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 2665 by Faith
08-19-2019 6:35 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
Yeah, and epidemics of STDs are just a bonus side effect.

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JonF
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Message 2676 of 5796 (861341)
08-20-2019 9:20 AM
Reply to: Message 2670 by Faith
08-19-2019 10:58 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
They fund abortions through donations.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2677 of 5796 (861346)
08-20-2019 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2673 by JonF
08-20-2019 9:13 AM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
I believe there are times to respond to violence with violence. But I'm against initiating violence.
Is this only on a per incident basis or is a broader perspective, like the right's history of extreme violence this past century, a reasonable consideration?

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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JonF
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Message 2678 of 5796 (861348)
08-20-2019 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 2677 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 10:59 AM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Per incident.

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Message 2679 of 5796 (861350)
08-20-2019 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2665 by Faith
08-19-2019 6:35 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
Faith writes:
... citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content.
That sounds kinda crazy, doesn't it?
Is it okay for citizens to donate to gang killings or mass shootings? If my neighbour wants to kill his wife, should I be allowed to donate to the cause because I don't like her either?
It seems pretty clear that you don't really equate abortion with murder.

"Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns"
-- Woody Guthrie

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JonF
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Message 2680 of 5796 (861352)
08-20-2019 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2665 by Faith
08-19-2019 6:35 PM


Re: Planned Parenthood Refuses Federal Funds over Abortion Restrictions
Right-wingers in general don't accept that solution. First they don't want legal abortion at all. Second, money is "fungible", which means that it is difficult to prove that this dollar funded an abortion and that dollar funded a pack of condoms.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2681 of 5796 (861360)
08-20-2019 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 2678 by JonF
08-20-2019 11:40 AM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Per incident.
I am an old hippy with the hair, the bong, and the pacifism. I can appreciate your stance.
However,
the alt-Reich scares the hell out of me as it should any caring human being and I have to consider whether sterner action than words should be taken before they get to the position of wider political power. To me, disrupting their rallies, dogging their marches, confronting their presence with milkshakes and verbal abuse is tame compared to the evil they would do, indeed are already doing, if allowed to grow further.
We have to remember the last time we let them onto the world political stage 80 million people were killed before their evil was brought down. This next time will not be so limited.
The alt-Reich will want war. And this time we need to demonstrate upfront without any equivocation we are willing and able to give it to them.
To me, the unsolicited punching of a Nazi in the nose anywhere, everywhere, anytime, everytime is justified as self-defense of the human race. This society should have a Punch a Nazi in the Nose day every month. We would share videos of these doings on sponsored web sites and Baskin-Robbins and others would offer 10% off milkshakes when you bring your video to their store.
Go Antifa!

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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JonF
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Message 2682 of 5796 (861369)
08-20-2019 2:49 PM
Reply to: Message 2681 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 1:41 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Bongs are so 1970s! Vaporizers beat them hands down.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2683 of 5796 (861370)
08-20-2019 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2682 by JonF
08-20-2019 2:49 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Did I mention how old I am?

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Faith 
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Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 2684 of 5796 (861371)
08-20-2019 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 2681 by AZPaul3
08-20-2019 1:41 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
Wow, I take that as a serious threat.
Whatever degree of "alt reich" stuff may be going on it's absolutely nothing compared to the Leftist destructiveness that's going to bring down the country. Antifa is only the currently visible violent tip of it, but the whole philosophical framework is dangerous.
The Fascism is on the Left; Antifa are the fascists. Reagan was right when he said that if fascism ever comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism. We're even past liberalism now, into the rumblings of a real Communist Revolution that could truly destroy everything we've ever known as America. And I don't know if you know that and embrace it or are merely the usual useful idiot.
When ordinary American patriots are called white supremacists and racists and Nazis, and that includes me and it includes Trump, you are going to be punching ordinary good people in the nose and feeling oh so righteous about what is really a horrendous injustice and inhumanity. I was sort of a hippy too but I was horrified by the Marxist rhetoric on the fringes of Flower Power. this never was flower power, it's plain old tyrannical totalitarian power and it's wielded by the bad guys calling themselves the good guy and targets the good guys.
You would punch me in the nose though I'm no Nazi. Perhaps the smoke from the bong is clouding your mind, or maybe you've always hated ordinary Americans as the Marxists always have. There are no more frontiers unfortunately or I'd head for it.
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He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II.
2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism
If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan

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PaulK
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Message 2685 of 5796 (861373)
08-20-2019 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2684 by Faith
08-20-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Fox lies by omission about antifa
So you think that opposing Nazis is bad, that opposing Fascism is Fascism and apparently you want a return to the McCarthy witch-hunts.

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