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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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By which you mean that the Left has to stop the TRUE accusations.
Explain to me why Trump’s characterisation of Mexican immigrants as - typically - drug dealers, criminals and rapists isn’t at the least xenophobic. Explain to me why Trump enjoys so much support among White Supremacists. Explain to me why you are less concerned by violent Right-wing extremists than you are about violent people who oppose them. Explain to me how Laura Ingraham’s objections to brown people moving into white areas aren’t racist (as discussed here Message 1
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
I hope all can see were this is going for you, M'lady. The dog pile is in full swing and you keep sending up more dog whistles.
I'm concerned this discussion will once again be subject to outside restrictions that no one here really want to see happen. It may be time for you, Faith, to take a break from this one and let the emotion subside.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Dog whistles means having an anti-Leftist opinion I assume. Fine, I'll leave.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
By which you mean that the Left has to stop the TRUE accusations. I said what I mean.
Explain to me why Trump’s characterisation of Mexican immigrants as - typically - drug dealers, criminals and rapists isn’t at the least xenophobic. Because he didn't say it was "typical," he was talking about the fact that we are getting drug dealers, criminals and rapists along with all the others. Which you'd know if you used a single brain cell to figure it out. But getting Trump is always the game played here, hang the truth.
Explain to me why Trump enjoys so much support among White Supremacists. Because he supports the culture and they don't know the difference.
Explain to me why you are less concerned by violent Right-wing extremists than you are about violent people who oppose them. I rarely hear about right wing extremists from normal people, they are very rare. It's only where the Left has a stake in magnifying their existence that I ever even hear about them, and considering the source I have no reason to take any of it seriously.
Explain to me how Laura Ingraham’s objections to brown people moving into white areas aren’t racist (as discussed here Message 1 I didn't hear her say it but assuming she did I'd say it is racist, but I'd prefer it if she pointed out the cultural problems rather than focusing on race because it's really the cultural problems that matter. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Never mind, I'm glad if anyone is ever concerned about such things, or I should be, so thanks and I'll go away.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: I guess this is another example of your redefinition of truth then.
quote: Obviously he did imply that it is typical. Getting a few bad apples among immigrants is normal, wherever they are from.
quote: That’s because there isn’t a difference.
quote: I guess that’s because you prefer sources that support right-wing extremists. But certainly the shootings at El Paso are a clear example that you should have heard of. The Proud Boys demonstration in Portland is another recent example. And we know that you reject sources because they tell the truth.
quote: Then it is interesting that you were defending her not long after she made those remarks.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK I'll ignore the usual provocations and focus on you, how about that? You said your Santa beard is a "faux" Santa beard. Meaning what?
And the red eyes? Smoking, drinking? I know it's none of my business but you described them so it's hard to avoid asking. Thank you for your kind attention to this matter.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Not vague, very specific. The numbers come from the FBI.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
quote: For example, "welfare queen".
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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quote:Let's see what he said. "Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people." Clearly indicating the majority of them are criminals, at least to anyone who uses a single brain cell to figure it out.
quote:Their body count isn't rare. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
"faux" Santa beard. Meaning what? Fake Santa. I'm not the real thing.
And the red eyes? Smoking, drinking? Uh...allergies. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
That is about as vacuous and vague as it's possible to get. Who is putting up those terms, what do they mean? What incidents are being included?
Turns out the Anti-Defamation League tracks this stuff.
Right-Wing Extremism Linked to Every 2018 Extremist Murder in the U.S., ADL Finds; Right-wing extremists killed more people last year than in any year since 1995 quote: They also have a neat interactive map and list. Here's all 222 extremist (Islamist, Left-Wing, White Supremacist, right-wing anti-government, right-wing other) murders in the last ten years:
The murders are listed and briefly described under the map. Here's all 203 murders by the three flavors of right-wingers in the same time frame:
Again the murders are list and briefly described under the map. 203/222 = 91%. Don't worry, Faith, your anti-reality shield won't crack.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Obviously he's not talking about ALL immigrants because he says we're only getting the bad ones, meaning there are good ones but we aren't getting them. Nothing to do with xenophobia.
And you say the right wing extremists' "body count isn't rare" without any explanation. What body count?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So you expect me to accept the mere labels of whether some incident is right wing or whatnot. No way to fake that, right? Enormous number of incidents, too, labeled "terrorist" yet, that somehow didn't make the news?
And PS: The ADL is ideologically leftist. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
"Immigrants" means the ones we are getting. Obviously he's not talking about ALL immigrants because he says we're only getting the bad ones, meaning there are good ones but we aren't getting them."Come all of you cowboys and don't ever run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns" -- Woody Guthrie
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