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Author Topic:   Chance as a sole-product of the Universe
FLRW
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Message 186 of 263 (850903)
04-16-2019 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by Tangle
03-04-2019 1:46 PM


Re: Necessary Certainty
It's time for intelligent Man to look at the facts now that we are aware of the structure of the Universe.
1. There is no God, but there were Creators.
2. The Creators had a goal to create life.
3. It seems that the Creators could not directly affect the physical world that they
created through Strings.This is why we have poor design.
4.This statistical creation of the Universe creates problems like pediatric cancer, again showing poor design.
5. It seems that the goal of creation was intelligent man. However, due again the the shotgun approach to creation there is a wide rage of intelligence (Gaussian distribution of IQ) in Humans.
6. Now what is the purpose of Man? Probably to create AI. The Creators can then inhabit AI beings and not be exposed to the frailties of poor physical design like cancer.

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FLRW
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Message 189 of 263 (851268)
04-21-2019 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 187 by Stile
04-17-2019 10:21 AM


Re: Necessary Certainty
I am saying that strings are the only thing the Creators could directly control. From that all the elements in the Universe could be created. The fact that Man has had such a poor quality of life ( 60 percent of children died before the age of 5 thousands of years ago) shows that the Creators did not care about Man as he was just an intermediate step to some other goal. What could be a product that Man could create that would be of value to the Creators? The only thing I can think of would be AI.

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FLRW
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Message 195 of 263 (851290)
04-22-2019 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 194 by Theodoric
04-22-2019 8:38 AM


Re: Necessary Certainty
If you look at ourworldindata.org you will see as recently as 1800, the health conditions of our ancestors were such that 43% of the world's newborns died before their 5th birthday.

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FLRW
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Message 198 of 263 (851294)
04-22-2019 9:32 AM
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04-22-2019 9:20 AM


Re: Necessary Certainty
Creators exist because something had to create spacetime from nothing.

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FLRW
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Message 203 of 263 (851308)
04-22-2019 10:58 AM
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04-22-2019 10:21 AM


Re: Necessary Certainty
Now I remember why I left this forum. Goodbye.

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FLRW
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Message 234 of 263 (861394)
08-20-2019 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 233 by Stile
07-16-2019 1:27 PM


Re: Not A Chance
So a probability of 0 means there’s literally no chance of that thing happening, a probability of 0.5 means there’s a 50% chance, and a probability of 1 means that it’s certain to happen. As you can see, the idea of probability and chance is the same.

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FLRW
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Message 245 of 263 (861489)
08-22-2019 10:38 AM


The Universe is a simulation based on strings (String Theory). Whatever created strings is the creator of the Universe. It is the number of strings that shows intelligent design. There are enough strings to create 200 sextillion stars, one of which would have the random development of a planet to create life.

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FLRW
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Message 247 of 263 (861492)
08-22-2019 10:59 AM
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08-22-2019 10:38 AM


I just want to add that it is non compassionate intelligent design.

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