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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
You are forgetting that this is something that happened a few years back. It started in 2016. Hannity was plugging it in 2017.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Neither Hannity nor Alex Jones are “conservative radio”, so I don’t see the relevance.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
So you think that opposing Nazis is bad, that opposing Fascism is Fascism and apparently you want a return to the McCarthy witch-hunts.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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By which you mean that the Left has to stop the TRUE accusations.
Explain to me why Trump’s characterisation of Mexican immigrants as - typically - drug dealers, criminals and rapists isn’t at the least xenophobic. Explain to me why Trump enjoys so much support among White Supremacists. Explain to me why you are less concerned by violent Right-wing extremists than you are about violent people who oppose them. Explain to me how Laura Ingraham’s objections to brown people moving into white areas aren’t racist (as discussed here Message 1
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: I guess this is another example of your redefinition of truth then.
quote: Obviously he did imply that it is typical. Getting a few bad apples among immigrants is normal, wherever they are from.
quote: That’s because there isn’t a difference.
quote: I guess that’s because you prefer sources that support right-wing extremists. But certainly the shootings at El Paso are a clear example that you should have heard of. The Proud Boys demonstration in Portland is another recent example. And we know that you reject sources because they tell the truth.
quote: Then it is interesting that you were defending her not long after she made those remarks.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So basically you are arguing that all the good immigrants go to countries other than the US. If that’s true then there is something wrong with the US.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Also, a number of right-wingers have been arrested before they can carry out attacks. Most recently this guy in New Jersey
In his car he had
semi-automatic assault handgun, a 9mm semi-automatic assault pistol with a high-capacity magazine, a loaded 9mm pistol, two barrels sawed off from a double-barrel shotgun, a sight for an assault rifle and a stripped AR-15 bolt carrier In his home the police found
14 more firearms, including assault rifles, shotguns, and handguns, authorities said. They also found four high-capacity magazines, ammunition, a grenade launcher, silencer tubes and a ballistics vest, And
Inside both the vehicle and the home, police found clothing and bumper stickers with white supremacist and Neo-Nazi slogans along with a document containing racist material and purporting to be an instruction manual for owning a slave, As well as drugs.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: That’s probably true of all borders. And is is true that the American public includes drug dealers, criminals and racists. That hardly justifies Trumps characterisation of Mexican immigrants in general.
quote: Ingraham specifically said that the problem was only connected to immigration. If you had chosen to check - I linked to the discussion so you could - you would have seen that. So it certainly isn’t restricted to illegal immigration. That is just something you made up. But I guess lying to defend racists is fine with your God - certainly better than trusting an honest person telling the truth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Cultural Marxism is just a right-wing conspiracy theory. And as we have seen the racism is real.
quote: Because Trump and his supporters embrace racism. It’s not exactly a secret. Or something you can cover up with silly conspiracy nonsense. Even though you feel compelled to try.
quote: Perhaps Trump would do better expressing a rational basis for his actions rather than spouting nonsense on Twitter. But I guess you can’t admit that that is a bigger problem than people daring to point out the racism and xenophobia among his supporters.
quote: I wonder how telling the truth about Trump could possibly destroy the nation. Ignoring climate change could do that - but Trump is the champion of that.
quote: Not while we have screaming loons like you trying to shout down the real issues.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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If you seriously think that Trump’s trade war with China is being criticised because of Trump’s appeals to racism and xenophobia then you are completely out of touch with reality.
When Trump claims that trade wars are easy to win or that the Chinese are paying the tariffs he set it’s far from clear that the policy has any rational basis - and even Trump sees the risks to the US economy (now) - hence his recent demand that the Federal Reserve reduce interest rates by a whole point. Ranting about nutty conspiracy theories in an effort to silence criticism of Trump - and ignoring the real issues - is hardly a contribution to political discourse. It’s just an attempt to silence it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: That is silly because it is the tactics and strategies used which decide the label. Trump chooses to fight with tariffs - a tax on American companies who buy the affected goods from China. The Chinese retaliate in kind. That makes it a trade war.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So at least you know you brought it upon yourself. Maybe you should try showing respect for the other side.
quote: I thought you hated your treatment here. But now you think it’s good to invite it ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Antifa gets the headlines but the Right is - surprise, surprise - worse.
Portland Mercury An anti-facist has been working inside Patriot Prayer and documenting and filming their activities.
As the group waits, they discuss their weaponry. A few men try to guess which way the wind's blowing to avoid getting "spray" in their eyes, presumably when they use it against members of antifa. Another man holds a thick wooden dowel, and practices swinging it like a baseball bat. A woman carries a red brick in her hand. Some don goggles, helmets, and tactical gloves ... [Andy] Ngo doesn’t film any of the conversations, and smiles when the group cracks jokes. He overheard everything, Ben recalls, and said nothing. Since this May Day clash, Patriot Prayer and its supporters have uploaded edited clips of the fight to social media, trying to prove that their unprovoked attack was actually an act of self defense.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
A Trump supporter arrested after allegedly threatening to shoot up a Walmart. (Raw Story
Another post featured a shirtless man agents noted fits Clayton’s description posed with a rifle in front of a Trump banner, while wearing a flag bandanna over his face and holding a bottle of bourbon. He calls himself a White Nationalist and a registered Republican and doesn’t like being called a Nazi because he doesn’t quite understand the economic principles of Naziism (so I guess the anti-semitism is fine by him). Edited by PaulK, : Corrected last sentence
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: In the phone call Trump definitely asked that Biden’s son should be investigated as a favour to him. Even if there wasn’t the issue of military aid, a President should not be using his position to make trouble for political rivals. As for the rest, Trump’s fantasy about a server with DNC emails being somewhere in the Ukraine came up, but that’s going nowhere.
quote: From what I’ve heard Schiff simply paraphrased the transcript. Which already made Trump look very bad. But Trump wants him arrested for treason over that which just proves that Trump really wants to be a tinpot dictator,
quote: Where is this audio? Though I have to point out that it still wouldn’t make Biden as bad as Trump. For that you’d need to prove personal advantage, not campaigning against corruption.
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