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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8551 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Soros is obscenely rich and he is on the Left. George Soros made his obscene wealth by trading in financials (equities, bonds, currencies) not by purposely destroying the ecology of this planet.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
George Soros made his obscene wealth by trading in financials (equities, bonds, currencies) not by purposely destroying the ecology of this planet. Isn't the former called Capitalism?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8551 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Isn't the former called Capitalism? Sure is. He is a fat cat capitalist. The right should love him. I guess he doesn't burn enough forests and spill enough oil for them.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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[Soros] is a fat cat capitalist. The right should love him. The problem is that the majority of the people want clean air and water and so want large corporations to be regulated. They also want a reasonable social welfare safety net and public schools and access to healthcare, and they'd like at least a minimum of labor rights. The majority also want rich people to pay taxes to pay for this. As a result, the 1% hate democracy. They don't want to pay taxes, and they don't want their businesses fettered by regulations or uppity unions, but these are things they've had suffer under democratic government. But Soros is one of the few billionaires who believes that the majority is right, and who has a commitment to democratic principles, and who is willing to spend his wealth to promote these things. Hence, Soros is the enemy of the goals of the 1%. Since the 1950s, the 1% has gotten really good at using working and middle class white people's grievances to manipulate them into jumping through their hoops. Hence, the hatred of the right for Soros even though most of what Soros stands for would be supported by rank and file red staters if they had any idea of what they were talking about.It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course. As I said, there is only whatever side you're on, there is no such thing as respecting the other side, there is only war. There wasn't really any need to bring it up, the result was predictable, but maybe it's a good thing to demonstrate it from time to time.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Sticking your head in the sand is a sure fire way to avoid disaster.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Sticking your head in the sand is a sure fire way to avoid disaster. But doesn't that also place you in the ideal position for when reality comes up and bites you?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So at least you know you brought it upon yourself. Maybe you should try showing respect for the other side.
quote: I thought you hated your treatment here. But now you think it’s good to invite it ?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Last week (circa 21 Aug) I heard an official with Planned Parenthood being interviewed on a Sirius XM Progress program about their having to stop receiving Title X funding because of a new Trump Admin rule violating the doctor-patient relationship. Not quite as bad as that recent Missouri rule (since rescinded) requiring extra unnecessary invasive exams which basically constituted state-mandated sexual assault, but created for the same purpose.
She brought up some points:
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Faith writes: As might be expected of the Washington Post... You should judge the quality of a news source's information by the evidence supporting it, not by their editorial stance. But the piece I cited, What to do if you're called a racist, wasn't news. It was a perspective piece. Opinion.
...this presentation on racism absolutely and utterly misses the point. Total red herring. The piece wasn't a "presentation on racism," and it directly addressed the point it intended to address, namely what to do if you inadvertently and/or unknowingly exhibit racism and are called on it.
Real racism to whatever extent it may exist is not the point. No, racism is pretty much the point.
The point is that racism is one weapon in an arsenal of character-assassinating weapons invented by Cultural Marxism to undermine the credibility of political opponents while avoiding ever taking their political arguments seriously. Racism is real. We see its effects every day. Some threads here even have a died-in-the-wool racist contributing on a regular basis. Cultural Marxism is just a name the right likes to pin on the left because it riles up their base. Yourself, for example.
It is currently specifically directed against Trump and his supporters. When one speaks or acts publicly on their racist attitudes one shouldn't be surprised when one is called racist.
The rational bases for any of Trump's political aims is completely ignored under a barrage of personal accusations. If Trump has a rational basis for what he says and does he hasn't yet been able to articulate it. His "chopper talk" Q&A's with reporters, which is all that passes for press briefings these days, are a random assemblage of unsupported, self-serving and often contradictory comments.
This is how the nation is being destroyed. By Trump lies, misrepresentations and misinformation? Yes, that is true.
Call him a racist when he's not,... Even Republicans think Trump a racist, for example, George Conway, husband of Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president: "Naivete, resentment and outright racism, roiled in a toxic mix, have given us a racist president." Or Paul Ryan: "Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sorta the textbook definition of a racist comment." Or the four Republicans in the House (Will Hurd (TX), Fred Upton (MI), Susan Brooks (IN), Brian Firzpatrick (PA)) who voted to condemn Trump's racist comments (Joe Amash (MI-I), recently resigned from the Republican party, joined them).
...call him a liar when he's just misspoken,... Here's a link to Trump's nearly 11,000 lies and misrepresentations. You're welcome to peruse them and bring to our attention any errors.
...bury his intended point under a mountain of innuendo and fake news. Yes, what you're saying is a mountain of innuendo and fake news.
There is no such thing as political discourse any more, just pile on the personal accusations and nobody has to bother thinking seriously about the real issues. Trump seems to think personal accusations are legitimate political discourse, and that he's never done any serious thinking about the important issues of the day is self evident. --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Antifa gets the headlines but the Right is - surprise, surprise - worse.
Portland Mercury An anti-facist has been working inside Patriot Prayer and documenting and filming their activities.
As the group waits, they discuss their weaponry. A few men try to guess which way the wind's blowing to avoid getting "spray" in their eyes, presumably when they use it against members of antifa. Another man holds a thick wooden dowel, and practices swinging it like a baseball bat. A woman carries a red brick in her hand. Some don goggles, helmets, and tactical gloves ... [Andy] Ngo doesn’t film any of the conversations, and smiles when the group cracks jokes. He overheard everything, Ben recalls, and said nothing. Since this May Day clash, Patriot Prayer and its supporters have uploaded edited clips of the fight to social media, trying to prove that their unprovoked attack was actually an act of self defense.
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Trump admin says children of US soldiers born overseas will no longer get automatic American citizenship
quote: Faith I would really like to hear your reaction. It's not fake news, it's Government policy. Here's the official USCIS announcement https://www.uscis.gov/...0190828-ResidenceForCitizenship.pdf (note PDF). Anything for our men and women in the Armed Forces, right?
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Right-wing "journalist" Andy Ngo outed: Video shows him hanging out with far-right hate group
quote: Video and demonstrations of dishonest editing at the link.
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I think the article Trump admin says children of US soldiers born overseas will no longer get automatic American citizenship may be misleading, though I'm not sure. Say John and Mary Smith were born and raised in Alabama but were stationed in Germany when their first child was born. The article gives the impression that that child would not automatically be an American citizen, and I don't think that's true. Am I reading it wrong?
I then read through the first three and a half pages of Defining Residence in Statutory Provisions Related to Citizenship and found it hard to follow. I think the implication for the military is that children born to non-citizen members of the military while stationed outside the US would not automatically be US citizens, that it would depend upon how much time the parents had resided within the physical borders of the US. It also seems to be saying that it would be a similar situation for US citizens born outside the US. It might also introduce an interesting conundrum. If a child born outside the US to US citizens is not a citizen of the US, and is not a citizen of the country where born (because that country doesn't have birthright citizenship), then what is it a citizen of? Are such children automatically stateless? I could easily have this wrong. Like I said, I found the language hard to understand, but my initial impression is that USCIS is tying themselves in knots trying to reconcile corner cases whose resolution has been rendered ambiguous because of evolving law. In normal times they would probably have written a policy that interpreted citizenship leniently for such corner cases, but in the time of Trump they have to develop policies that make citizenship as restrictive as possible. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Children of American citizens are citizens. Children born to one citizen parent are citizens. They cannot take that away.
https://thehill.com/...-us-service-members-overseas-will-not
quote: Not sure exactly what that last one means. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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