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Author Topic:   Is God All Loving? Does the bible support Inclusion (Universalism)?
Smitty500
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Message 14 of 17 (86194)
02-13-2004 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by soljafolife
01-19-2004 3:21 PM


Re: Absolute Will
You can say predestination has already made our choices for us or look at it this way. Which in my opinion makes more sense.This is just an illustration Imagine you are God and can travel forward and backward in time. Now you go to the time when the book is written(the Book of LIfe) then you go back to the time when you left. Now God knows the names of people who will be in hell and those who will be in heaven. He hasn't made any choices just taken a "sneak peak". Every person has many choices to make but this one is the most important one anyone will ever make.
God definately has a plan but if you feel God calling on your heart than accept him at face value. I don't think he won't accept you because it wasn't part of his plan. If you don't accept him for your whole life than obviously it was part of his plan. And yes are choices are made by God for us but hey it's part of a Great plan.
Now to say that everyone will be restored contradicts the bible in many places. Here is one example. John 5:29 "and come out-- those who have odne good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned." Condemned to be restored? no. JOhn 5:40 "Yet you refuse to come to me to have life" This shows two things, one that we have a choice and two that there is eternal life and there is an eternal death. One cannot assume that he is talking about physical life, most of the apostles were martyred and the bible would speak about their resurrection in the flesh if it were so. To think that Satan will be restored is also not biblical look at Revelation chapter 20. The one section of the chapter is titled Satan's Doom 20:10 And the devil, who decieved them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Thanx
God Bless
[This message has been edited by Smitty500, 02-13-2004]

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