Do you guys never stop with the lying accusations?
Do you ever try to defend the barbarities of this administration?
There's not one lie in my posts on this subject. I even dug up a post from an ultra-right-wing site confirming the existence of the termination of the program. (Of course they had to lie about the legal status of the people in the program.)
The fact is that Ken Cuccinelli and Stephen Miller, with Trump’s blessing, want to kill sick brown kids to let everyone know there's no evil to which they won't sink to get rid of immigrants legal and illegal.
The fact is also that you haven't lifted a finger to check my facts. You assume they're lies because they don't fit your dogma.
Finally, it's a fact that you standing by silent without any interest in reality or compassion makes you complicit in the brutality.
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
All the rest is forgeries and deceptions.
that nobody has been able to prove, even Trump gave up on the birther bullshit.
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
Re: There is no comparison with Obama's situation.
He went to a "Christian" church whose pastor did nothing but hate America, that's hardly a Christian church;
Christianity demands loyalty to the US?
even apologized for America
Trump recently apologized to Kim Jong-un for combined US/South Korea military exercises, is he a traitor?
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
Translation: we're going to wait until the hullabaloo dies down and off 'em on the down low.
That was their plan from the start, since there was no public announcement of the change; all they were doing was mailing out letters to the individuals being affected. It was only after that practice was made public and only because of the bad publicity that generated that they have now "backed down". There's no doubt that they will either go right back to what they were doing before when they think nobody's looking anymore, or else they will mis-process everybody's applications so that everybody gets rejected and deported.
They're just taking their lead from their boss. We have repeatedly seen Trump get caught, so he reverses himself to show how "honest" he is, and then he reverses himself again within a few days. The only difference is that Trump is too dumb to be able to keep the second reversal out of the public eye.
Here's Chris Hayes' interview from last Friday Washington Post Reporter David Fahrenthold whose beat is Trump finances. He's the one who broke the news that no veterans' organization had received any part of the donations from an event Trump held for veterans in lieu of attending the FOX News-sponsored debate, but instead that money had gone into the Trump Foundation. The Trump Foundation served as a source of spending money for Trump and has been closed down by the State of New York because of its violations of laws regarding charities. Fahrenthold describes his interview with Trump, the strangest one he ever had -- Trump called him and started with the declaration that he had just mailed a check out 10 minutes ago. Basically, this was a case of bad publicity forcing Trump to do what he was supposed to do in the first place -- even though he ended up paying those charities, it took this reporter's reports to force Trump into it.
They also get into Trump's hotels and how the Saudis have been paying money to Trump through massive use of his hotels.
I forget whether they get into how Trump is funneling government money into his pockets through his far-too-frequent golf trips (more in two years that Obama ever did in 8) to his own over-priced resorts.
I know that they didn't get into why Trump held his press conference with the Irish Prime Minister in an airport lounge next to the vending machines. Trump wanted them to go to his local golf resort to do it and make use of three limousines from that resort (for a cost of $1 million), but the Irish declined that "offer" and suggested instead that they use another venue, so Trump just opted for the lounge.
I did like that Fahrenthold had been informed by a Trump executive that none of his properties are doing well and that the primary reason is because of Trump. Bad branding.
The entire episode is below. It also includes an informative discussion of the problems with the Electoral College and of the Republicans' opposition to the concept of "one person, one vote", an interview of the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission which has just lost another member bringing them from 4 (barely a quorum) down to 3 (no quorum, so no way to do anything going into a vitally important election year), and GOP Rep Will Hurd who's retiring from his Texas border district (Trump has ordered his minions to break whatever laws necessary to build his wall, promising them pardons, including seizing private property in a state where ranchers have rather strong ideas about private property rights).
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
That is utterly ridiculous. Nobody was asking about his father but everybody wanted to know about her grandson. Don't be silly.
Do you know what the name of President Obama's father was? Barack Obama.
A mother is going to remember the birth of her own son (for which attendance is mandatory for the mother) more readily then the birth of her grandson which she did not attend. Consider also her age and the fact that all this was being conducted by phone and through translators. So when she's asked about "Barack", whom would she think of first? Like any mother?
Besides, we do have the official full birth certificate from Hawaii, which in 1961 was a state in the United States.
Also, President Obama's mother was an American citizen, so he could have been born anywhere in the world, even in international waters, and still be born an American citizen, so all your birther BS is moot.
If you want to insist that's not the case, then what about Ted Cruz? Did you ever support or consider supporting him for President? I'm sure that many GOP birthers did. Well, his father was a non-citizen, his mother was a citizen, and he was born in a foreign country (Canada, which I should inform you is not a part of the USA).
So why support Cruz and reject Obama when Cruz is less qualified for citizenship than Obama? Oh yeah, racism -- but only because Cruz is light enough to pass as white.
Do you know what the name of President Obama's father was? Barack Obama. A mother is going to remember the birth of her own son (for which attendance is mandatory for the mother) more readily then the birth of her grandson which she did not attend. Consider also her age and the fact that all this was being conducted by phone and through translators. So when she's asked about "Barack", whom would she think of first? Like any mother? '
Oh give it up, that's ridiculous. The whole village was talking about her illustrious grandson since he moved up in American politics and as President of the United States, wow, you think she'd think they were asking about her son???. DO NOT TRY TO PRETEND YOU BELIEVE THAT BLATANT LIE.
Besides, we do have the official full birth certificate from Hawaii, which in 1961 was a state in the United States.
Give it a really good careful look some time. It's an obvious forgery.
Also, President Obama's mother was an American citizen, so he could have been born anywhere in the world, even in international waters, and still be born an American citizen, so all your birther BS is moot.
Now we get the change of subject. Are you admitting he was born in Kenya? That would be the sensible thing to do since obviously he was.
If you want to insist that's not the case, then what about Ted Cruz? Did you ever support or consider supporting him for President? I'm sure that many GOP birthers did. Well, his father was a non-citizen, his mother was a citizen, and he was born in a foreign country (Canada, which I should inform you is not a part of the USA). So why support Cruz and reject Obama when Cruz is less qualified for citizenship than Obama? Oh yeah, racism -- but only because Cruz is light enough to pass as white.
And deeper we go into the deception, change of subject, etc. Just admit he was born in Kenya, the grandmother couldn't have meant anyone else. Finally, come clean. We can talk about the Constitutional issues las
Being in office while every moment his political enemies are telling lies about him in the media and calling his every move illegitimate when it's not and threatening to impeach him or have him jailed, supporting an investigation based on nothing but lies only to harass him and impede his work, refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions. THAT is how his term has been stolen from him.
Why would any of that keep any competent president from performing his duties? Why are you arguing that Trump is so incompetent and incapable?
Obama was constantly being lied about by the Fake News Network, plus he had the GOP-dominated Congress following an extremely obstructionist policy in which they blocked everything they could, yet he was able to accomplish a lot despite that. Why didn't that stop him? Because he was competent and capable.
Bill Clinton was actually impeached (albeit as an actual witch hunt), during which he was able to get a lot of constructive work done. Leading up to that impeachment, he was subjected to extensive investigations (the infamous Whitewater BS) that turned up nothing, so Brett Kavanaugh talked Ken Starr into pursuing a new witch hunt, Monica Lewinsky, for which Kavanaugh drew up a list of highly salacious questions with the intent of entrapping Clinton into committing perjury. And in spite of all that, Clinton was still able to function fully and competently as President. Why didn't that stop him? Because he was competent and capable.
So why is Trump stopped dead in his tracks whenever anybody doesn't line up to kiss his rancid orange buns? The moment anybody is at all critical of him? We've all seen it. He goes into an incoherent rant, usually on Twitter but more recently for nearly an hour in the driveway. He's so consumed by any criticism that he can't do anything else.
Of course, if he had a competent staff, then they'd be able to do all that work for him one he gives them the direction. The problem there is two-fold. First, he's chased off all the competent staff and replaced them with sycophants who know that their survival depends on never contradicting Trump. Second, they'll work in the direction they were told, then suddenly Trump publicly states the opposite and now his staff not only has to dump what they had done and start all over again, but they also have to quickly perform damage control over the incredibly stiupid thing Trump had just said. Even a competent staff would be unable to properly support an ID10T like Trump.
If Trump is as incompetent and incapable as you claim he is and such a snowflake that he gets all butt-hurt over the slightest thing, then he clearly doesn't deserve being in the Oval Office.
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Oh give it up, that's ridiculous. The whole village was talking about her illustrious grandson since he moved up in American politics and as President of the United States, wow, you think she'd think they were asking about her son???. DO NOT TRY TO PRETEND YOU BELIEVE THAT BLATANT LIE.
I've heard that part of the interview. I heard her getting confused, the interpreter had to remind her whom they were talking about, and she corrected herself.
Now for you to support your own blatant lie. SHOW US THAT PART OF THE TRANSCRIPT!
Now we get the change of subject. Are you admitting he was born in Kenya? That would be the sensible thing to do since obviously he was.
No, I am simply pointing out that it makes abso-fucking-lutely NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER!!!
But obviously that is too subtle a point for you to comprehend.
... Cruz ...
I was pointing out your (pl) gross hypocrisy by supporting Cruz and rejecting Obama with your birther BS when Obama qualifies more as a citizen than Cruz.
Look at this chart comparing both of them on the three conditions for natural born citizenship:
Obama Cruz Father is a citizen no no Mother is a citizen yes yes Born in US (including yes no territories, etc) SCORE 2 1
You need a score of 1 or more to qualify
Therefore, Obama is more qualified on the citizenship question than Cruz. So why Cruz and not Obama on the citizenship question?
Also, Cruz' case clearly shows that your entire birther position is complete and utter BS.
How? You can't even read most charts posted here, so how could you read a copy of a document in such detail as would be needed?
Oh, please!
ABE: I read Faith's statement in the wrong context. I thought that the context was Obama's long-form birth certificate and her false and refuted claim that it's an obvious forgery, whereas the correct context was the telephone interview with Obama's grandmother.
I have no doubt that Faith will never read this ABE, but at least it's on record.
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