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Tangle
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Message 7 of 25 (862284)
09-03-2019 4:13 PM


What are you saying? That it’s morally ok for God to be a murdering bastard but those he made in his likeness should be better behaved?

Children get their values from their parents.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 10 of 25 (862289)
09-03-2019 4:40 PM
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09-03-2019 4:28 PM


You didn't answer the question, is it morally ok for god to murder?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 15 of 25 (862316)
09-04-2019 2:48 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Phat
09-03-2019 4:42 PM


Re: Claymation Nation
Phat writes:

Here is the answer from John Piper: (What do you think of his response?)

He tells you that the God that you worship is sick and evil. So much for our morality originating in religion. Jesus would hate everything he stands for and so should you.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 22 of 25 (862426)
09-05-2019 5:30 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Phat
09-05-2019 4:56 AM


Re: Revisionist History and Evidence
Phat writes:

Then how come I changed and became aware of a profound inner awareness when I allegedly "got saved"? And why do many others report the same change?

How come there are so many suicide bombers? How come there are so many mental illnesses? How come there are so many crazy sects willing to think and believe all sorts of batshit crazy things? How come Mormons, Scientologists, dowsers, Hindus, astrologers?

It's your mind Phat, it can do powerful things to you. Do voluntary work in a mental hospital for a few months - you'll see that people can sincerely believe absolutely anything. Nothing can change a Napoleon of Jesus's mind that they're delusional.

Mass hypnosis??

No, just the way our brains are wired. You would not believe what you believe now had you been born to Hindu parents. We learn beliefs, we are programmed to believe them - some peoplemore than others.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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