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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Answer the damn question. How did you prove the birth certificate is a forgery? What are your credentials for documentary analysis? How did the birth announcement get put in the local HI paper?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
DWise1 writes: Faith writes:
I never claimed that you did, so DO NOT MISREPRESENT WHAT I SAY! Wow, you will go to any lengths to avoid simple questions. I never supported Cruz, that's entirely your own invention. Yes you did say that. Go read your Message 673 where you say
DWise1 writes: was pointing out your (pl) gross hypocrisy by supporting Cruz and rejecting Obama with your birther BS when Obama qualifies more as a citizen than Cruz. Yes, I read it. I even wrote it. So why didn't you (sing) read it? Does your massive igniurunce also extend to the most basic aspects of English? Do you really have no conception of number? Do you really not understand that higher-level concept, the plural? Really? Or are you also becoming as megalomaniacal as Trump and have taken to referring to yourself in the plural? I very explicitly wrote "your (pl)" to indicate that I was using the plural form of "your" instead of singular -- it is unfortunate that English no longer distinguishes between the two forms. I did so to indicate explicitly and unambiguously that I was not referring to you personally, but rather to a collection of people, birthers. Wow! If you are unable to handle the plural, then your mind will be completely blown away when I use the subjunctive. So my objection still stands: DO NOT MISREPRESENT WHAT I SAY!
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
You misrepresented what I said (cleared up at Message 722) in order to distract and divert away from the same question you've been asked over and over again about your birther BS: SO WHAT?
More specifically from my Message 694, which you just avoided yet again:
DWise1 writes: What possible importance could you attach to the question of whether Obama was born in an US state (or territory, as in Goldwater's and McCain's cases) or not? You cleave so tightly to your false Kenya-birth claim that it appears that you believe it to be very important. What exactly is that importance supposed to be? Answer the damned question! Stop avoiding it!
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Are they liberals? Does your bizarre paranoia make this relevant?Hard as it is to fathom, Mr President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass. Unfortunately, just a free press. -- Neil Cavuto
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Of course once Obama's birth certificate was released, it was immediately claimed that it was a forgery. Here is Snope's response to that.
Of course, anything US "conservatives" don't want to hear is immediately labeled FAKE NEWS.Hard as it is to fathom, Mr President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass. Unfortunately, just a free press. -- Neil Cavuto
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I do not belong to the "you (pl.) collection of birthers" you say support Ted Cruz, either, since I do not support Ted Cruz.__
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Snopes is left wing.
I looked carefully at the birth certificate and decided on the basis of what's on it that it was a forgery, so you can't get away with accusing me of deciding that in advance. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Is it on Saul Alinsky's list of Rules for Radicals perhaps to avoid any criticism of the Left by echoing it against the Right? The bizarre paranoia I was talking about on the Left is driving the whole show these days. There's nothing paranoid about being persuaded by the evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
One of the benefits of that link to Snope's is that they display the long form so we can see and read it for ourselves.
Faith claims that she had examined it herself and could clearly see that it was a forgery:
In Message 669 Faith writes:
DWise1 writes:
Give it a really good careful look some time. It's an obvious forgery. Besides, we do have the official full birth certificate from Hawaii, which in 1961 was a state in the United States. Well, I have given it a really good careful look now and I can find absolutely nothing that would indicate forgery. Yet again, we have no idea what Faith thinks that she saw.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Yet more deflection and diversion!
Are you or are you not a birther? Have you ever denounced Ted Cruz as you do Obama? I didn't think so. Have you heard other birthers denouncing Cruz as they do Obama? I didn't think so. And you are still dodging the question from my Message 694:
DWise1 writes: What possible importance could you attach to the question of whether Obama was born in an US state (or territory, as in Goldwater's and McCain's cases) or not? You cleave so tightly to your false Kenya-birth claim that it appears that you believe it to be very important. What exactly is that importance supposed to be? Answer the damned question! Stop avoiding it!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I dunno, when the Left pretends such transparent nonsense to explain away what Obama's grandmother said about his birthplace as that she must have been talking about Obama's father, it seems to me that there's good reason to expect the same kind of nonsense when it comes to judging the authenticity of a birth certificate. But if you want to post the thing here I'll see if I can point to the indications as I saw them so you can exercise your right to say more nonsense about it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I have not studied the evidence related to Cruz's birth status, all I'm saying is I did not support him so the reference is irrelevant.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5930 Joined: Member Rating: 5.8 |
Stop deflecting and diverting and ANSWER THE DAMNED QUESTION!
Yet AGAIN:
From my Message 694:
DWise1 writes: What possible importance could you attach to the question of whether Obama was born in an US state (or territory, as in Goldwater's and McCain's cases) or not? You cleave so tightly to your false Kenya-birth claim that it appears that you believe it to be very important. What exactly is that importance supposed to be? Answer the damned question! Stop avoiding it!
Edited by dwise1, : changed sub-title
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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...Saul Alinsky's.... Boy, that's another one I haven't heard in a long time!Hard as it is to fathom, Mr President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass. Unfortunately, just a free press. -- Neil Cavuto
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Snopes is left wing. It contradicts your preset beliefs, so, yeah.Hard as it is to fathom, Mr President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass. Unfortunately, just a free press. -- Neil Cavuto
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