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Message 4 of 80 (862382)
09-04-2019 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Faith
09-04-2019 12:40 PM


Re: Instances of prayer in the series "Forensic Files"
Faith writes:

there are instances like those I mention in which it is clear that prayer was answered.

If prayer was answered you'd be able to prove it objectively, not give us silly apocryphal stories. When it HAS been properly tested it doesn't work.

Why is that?


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Message 16 of 80 (862422)
09-05-2019 3:40 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Faith
09-05-2019 12:42 AM


Re: Thread is for reporting answered prayers
Faith writes:

I'm interested in the subject of answered prayer and want to choose examples where it seems clear that is what happened.

What you want to do is exactly what you did when you were sure you'd be raptured.

It's motivated thinking and confirmation bias - over-inflating the importance of hits, discarding misses and refusing to critically evaluate anything.

You're also trying to tell us that everyday, common events are somehow miraculous - that's just daft.

The efficacy of prayer has been properly tested; it doesn't work.


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 34 of 80 (862580)
09-07-2019 3:31 AM


You're wrong, it's Allah that answers prayers. It's written in the book, so it must be true.

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“And when My servants question thee concerning Me, then surely I am nigh. I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he crieth unto Me. So let them hear My call and let them trust in Me, in order that they may be led aright.” (Baqara, 186)
.

I went to a Muslim wedding a while back that seemed to cost the father of the bride far more than he could afford but he said that he wasn't worried because 'Allah would provide' and he did! Though exactly how was a little unclear.

Of course Jews are also sure that God answers their prayers but that was somewhat tested by the holocaust were literally trillions of prayers were ignored.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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