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Oh it would still be of much interest to be able to prove his birth in Kenya.

Hard for me to ignore that the grandmother said so clearly that she was present at the time of his birth, and that she couldn't have been so stupid as to think anyone would be asking about her own son when she had a world-famous grandson. The silence on the phone call just gives time for a correction to be attempted. Believe what you like, this is my view of it. And again, the birth certificate I remember seeing many years ago was not the same as the one just presented here.

Gosh, if your psychoanalysis has any merit at all, it must mean by extension that you are invigorated by falsely accusing people you disagree with, which is of course the Leftist M.O. As you pointed out there is no practical reason to keep questioning Obama's birth, for me it's strictly having been convinced he was born in Kenya. Hate him, no, just think he was born in Kenya and he had quite an active political machine that engineered his Presidency. There was also the postman who remembered him from back in the day when he was known as a foreign student and yet announced that he was going to be President. Then strangely enough all his school records were put under lock and key and nobody could see that he was a FOREIGN student in those years. The political machine was working hard already back then. I could hate how corrupt American politics has become, I certainly hate Leftist ideology as a battering ram against America, but I have no reason to hate Obama himself.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The postman knew it was outside the Ayers' house where he had the conversation with the "foreign student" who had been identified as a foreign student by Mrs. Ayers.So if the school records are available we should be able to have the information about his student status.

Anyone calling from America would be asking about the Presidential candidate who was her grandson, besides which she and her family had been excited for a long time about his rise in American politics, and unless she was seriously demented which as far as I know was not the case, she would not have confused the question about him with a question about her own son. Sorry, the "clarification" was the lying part.

Sorry, but in the case of Obama we know he had all kinds of Communist connections, beginning with his own family who were Communists. He was befriended by whatshisname Ayers, a known Leftist activist, and lived with him and his wife during his student years. If he told the postman he was going to become the US President, which is what understandably stood out in the postman's memory coming from a "foreign student" which he remembered Mrs. Ayers telling him, then already back then it would appear he was being groomed for future greatness within a Communist political framework.Which to my mind suggests all kinds of work to falsify information to further that purpose, which Communism is known for. Propaganda, and the silencing of anyone who knows the truth by whatever means is available to them. In Communist countries it's simple murder by the state, but of course they'd have to be a bit more careful here, though maybe not as careful as one might hope. Here it seems to be intimidation by character assassination that is the main weapon for silencing anyone raising inconvenient questions.Sorry, the phone call to Kenya is clearly open to suspicion. If she'd simply right away said, no he was born in America, no problem, but that isn't how it went. And we know documents like birth certificates can be forged, and of course there would have been a strong motivation to do that.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Perhaps you and PaulK and AZPaul and dwise could get jobs with Putin, or the Chinese Communists. Good work of attacking the raiser of inconvenient questions. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Righto, Putin could use you too. Personal attack is SO useful isn't it?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You merely asserted all that without any reason for it, in the teeth of my reasoning. Sorry, my reasoning stands, along with the facts that support it. The postman said Mrs. Ayers told him they had a "foreign student" living with them. He knew he was talking to that student.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

But my claims are supported.

Wonderful how little you care about facts and arguments in your typical Leftist PC zeal to kill the opponent with smears and lies. It's really kind of fascinating to watch the real haters call others haters who are motivated by a strong sense of the truth and not hate at all.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The evidence is circumstantial but there's a lot of it.

FactsGrandmother in Kenya says quite clearly that she was present at Obama's birth
Silence on the phone follows
Silence is followed by "correction" emphatically and repeatedly stating that he was born in AmericaI remember looking at some kind of birth certificate about ten years ago that had some different type faces on it and something odd about the name. The one presented here recently was a different document.Postman says
He was told by Mrs. Ayers they had a foreign student living with them
He then met the student, he had no doubt it was the student, a black student from Africa
He didn't remember his name
But he remembered his saying he was going to be the US President which stuck in his mindObama was raised in a Communist family
He was close to the known Leftist terrorist activist Ayers and his wifeHe went to a "church" where the "pastor" preached on how evil America is rather than on the saving work of Jesus ChristHe was always putting down America to foreign leaders and bowing to Arab/Muslim leadersI'm told his school records are available to subpoena. I'd suppose there would have to be some legal reason to subpoena them? Somebody should do that if possible, to prove that he was or wasn't a foreign student. However, knowing how Communism works I don't think we could be sure those weren't forgeries too.

So you repeat the PC lies and smear. You are making up the "hate" since I've expressed no hate whatever, and show your own hate for me and my conservative views in that and your other terms.I hope the truth all comes out soon.

I never saw any Kenyan birth certificate. I remember a Hawaiian birth certificate that was different from the one shown in this thread.The grandmother's first statement on the phone and the Postman's memory are the best evidence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.