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Author Topic:   An excellent Apologetics Lecture
ringo
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Message 3 of 25 (862270)
09-03-2019 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
09-03-2019 12:12 PM


Re: Atheist Claims All Morality Is Subjective
Phat writes:

I wish I could have produced the transcript!


Produce the argument in your own words.

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves

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Message 5 of 25 (862273)
09-03-2019 12:27 PM
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09-03-2019 12:23 PM


Re: Atheist Claims All Morality Is Subjective
Phat writes:

One side argues that God used a nation as His tool to punish the reprehensible behavior and actions of another nation.


That seems like an argument that God's morality is relative. What has it got to do with atheists?

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves

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Message 18 of 25 (862366)
09-04-2019 11:52 AM
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09-04-2019 11:12 AM


Re: Revisionist History and Evidence
Phat writes:

...teaching that God is ultimately a product of the human mind. Did anyone teach that heresey then?


Just about every religion teaches that the other guy's god is made up. You beleve that Zeus and Thor are made up, don't you?

Phat writes:

Not all apologists are snake-oil salesmen.


Still waiting for you to show us one who isn't.

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves

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ringo
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Message 24 of 25 (862454)
09-05-2019 12:01 PM
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09-05-2019 1:28 AM


Re: No Apologies
Phat writes:

True, though I would use the appeal to popularity as my (only) valid defense.


Then Islam, Roman Catholicism and Hinduism would all win out over Protestantism.

Phat writes:

Moreover, I would argue that many of the other gods are not made up---they are actual demons disguised as God.


That doen't help you. They could say the same about your God - and the claim would be supported by your own scriptures.

“Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.”
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