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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I was hoping to find that maybe i'd posted that other birth certificate I remember, but didn't find it. Did at least find another discussion of all this a few years ago, and I see that I mentioned some other pieces of evidence in Message 1454.
Maybe I posted the certificate on one of my blogs. I'll look.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's your strained attempt to rationalize it away I find suspect of course.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's nothing but a bunch of assertions for which you offer no evidence at all, though little of it conflicts with the idea that he was a foreign student anyway.
The idea that the postman misremembered being told he was a "foreign student" is just plain ludicrous. The reason he remembered it so well is that the student told him he was going to become US President. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why is so much energy expended on proving he wasn't born in Kenya if it doesn't matter?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The hate is all on the Left, tons of it, mountains of it. And I have never even bothered to look up Q so I still have no idea what it refers to.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I certainly didn't have your personal expenditure of energy in mind, but the whole collective leftist effort. The odd silence on the phone after the grandmother said he was born in Kenya, followed by the "protesting too much" tone of the "correction," then the birth certificate that has some letters typed on it that should match each other but don't, which is hard to account for from the old manual typewriter that supposedly typed it up, and the mailman's memory that Obama was identified as a "foreign student" are all circumstantial but all together make a stronger impression than the attempts to rationalize it away. If it doesn't matter, fine, that means Ted Cruz can run for President then and there was no need to bother digging up the birth certificate at all.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No I meant arguments such as that the grandmother was talking about her own son being born in Kenya, or making a big deal out of how the mailman's memory wasn't corroborated and that sort of thing.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Actual data and facts? All I see on your side is the usual propaganda, not data and facts.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The mailman didn't "rave," he was quite credible.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The only purpose that birtherism served was to rile up racial hatred against Obama, especially among the rubes who didn't realize that it made no difference and who didn't care. The only reason why it's still around is because the Right needs to keep the hate and the fake outrage stirred up. The Left's imputation of motivations to the Right is forever wrong and incendiary. I have no motivation whatever except having been convinced that he was in fact born in Kenya, which is furthered by the Left's crazy ways of responding to the idea. If there is any other kind of motivation, having to do with objections to Obama, it's not racial, it's ideological. I didn't want the man to be President because of his beliefs, nothing to do with his race. Wish you guys could get that much straight. But even that has nothing to do with why I believe he was born in Kenya. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If anyone cares what *I* meant by "crazy ways," instead of jar's revisionist propaganda, see previous posts. Thank you.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've got it, I'll post it later. Not much to it turns out, but then you'd have guessed that. Anyway, later.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't think I'm "pushing" anything. I'm usually responding to something someone else says and then find myself having to keep on answering accusations and whatnot after that. I'm simply answering factually: I got convinced he was born in Kenya and I haven't seen any reason to change my mind, so when I keep getting arguments I answer them.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Ideology came up because I'm being falsely accused of "hate" and "racism" for believing he was born in Kenya. This implies I have those attitudes toward Obama and that they explain why I believe he wsas born in Kenya. ideology also doesn't explan it, I'm simply saying my object5ions to him are ideological and have nothing to do with hate or racism. But of course the Lefrt is incapable of processing the truth so I keep getting falsely accused anyway.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
See. As long as you continue to claim your interpretation is the correct one I'm going to answer that mine is.
The birth certificate is the long one, I just didn't recognize it. It's folded in half. I just have to go dig it out of my blog and copy out what was said about it. Three letters that should be identical throughout the form aren't, which is hard to explain based on the way the old manual typewriters worked. I'll go dig it up eventually but this kind of discussion takes a toll on my motivation.
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