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Author Topic:   Time Dilation, the Hubble Shift and God's Eternal Universe
Captcass
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Message 37 of 189 (862768)
09-12-2019 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Theodoric
09-12-2019 4:13 PM


Re: Who?
One of you called me a liar. I merely provided a history to show I didn't just make up what I said.

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Captcass
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Message 41 of 189 (862775)
09-12-2019 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Theodoric
09-12-2019 4:50 PM


Re: Facts not truth
Your inane assumptions about the limits of my education reveal your true malicious intent. My BS was long ago. I read over 1,000 books at sea and have studied multiple subjects over the years since I retired over 20 years ago.

I have studied things you probably don't even know exist.

All this from a person who "believes" in a literally unimaginable singularity and an infinitely accelerating "expansion" of the universe that also, literally, cannot be imagined......

You have "faith", these things are "truths" to you, "supported" by....... "Dark" stuff....

'Tis you folks who have hubris. It is you who have blind faith in totally illogical concepts.

I describe a simple elegant spacetime construct that explains apparent astrophysical evolutions in terms of the evolving quantum field.

Sad thing is you can't just discuss anything...

Or even debate it.....

All I hear is a lot of vicious hate speech and personal attacks.

Simple fact is, I have probably forgotten more than you will ever know....

Edited by Captcass, : text correction


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Captcass
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Message 46 of 189 (862780)
09-12-2019 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Tanypteryx
09-12-2019 9:24 PM


Re: Facts not truth
OK. I am tired of the mud slinging. If anyone wants an actual discussion and debate, just let me know. Otherwise.....
BiBi

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Captcass
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Message 55 of 189 (862794)
09-13-2019 11:03 AM
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09-13-2019 9:13 AM


Re: Interesting
"....... there is an immediate and compelling reason to believe that there is something fundamentally flawed in our current model of the universe."

Because they are looking at it astro-physically rather than as an evolving quantum field.

As per the mud slinging. Mea Culpa and I apologize for losing my cool.....

How do you quote someone here? I don't see a "quote" button???

Edited by Captcass, : addition of quesiton


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Captcass
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Message 57 of 189 (862796)
09-13-2019 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by Tanypteryx
09-13-2019 11:22 AM


Re: Interesting
Thank you. I also want to apologize to Theodoric for saying he called me a liar. I mistook his tag line as a comment on what I said.

As for the acid. I never knew what kind it was. It disoveled metals. I know it was real because I washed my hands in it twice, once with, and once without, faith. With faith it was like water. Without faith it burned like hell and I lost several layers of skin on my hands.

There is also the possibility it was a strong base.

I was a bitter atheist at the time but I learned the power of faith and that set me off on my studies of all the religions....All of this is recounted in the site I linked to (but shouldn't have) above.


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Captcass
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Message 67 of 189 (862813)
09-13-2019 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Theodoric
09-13-2019 12:38 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
I would note that the Journal put out the following press release on the 10th:

"Journal of Cosmology Publishes the First Peer-Reviewed Paper Originating the Universe With an Eternal Creator

The paper also claims to do much more, answering some of physics most perplexing problems, and if accepted will chart a whole new course ahead.
Press Release - updated: Sep 10, 2019 08:00 EDT

SAN DIEGO, September 10, 2019 (Newswire.com) - The peer-reviewed Journal of Cosmology has announced that it has published what is bound to be a hotly debated paper by Capt. Joseph H. (Cass) Forrington, a Cum Laude graduate of the United States Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, New York, that describes a cosmological model that originates the universe with an eternal Creator, something that has been a long-standing taboo in peer-reviewed science journals.

The model also appears to complete General Relativity by deriving the Hubble constant as a 2.2686*10^-18 acceleration in the rate of "proper" time, rather than as an acceleration due to an expansion of space, eliminating Big Bangs and "Dark Energy."

The model describes gravity as an evolutionary force in time and solutions are also provided for quantum non-locality and galactic rotation velocities by describing the astrophysical motions in terms of the evolving quantum spacetime field and is, therefore, recommended reading for both quantum and astrophysicists.

The paper, "General Relativity: Effects in Time as Causation," can be found in the Journal of Cosmology, Vol. 26, #21."

My point being that I am tying the two together. It is a discussion that has to be had between folks of all points of view.

On the science side, I see the biggest problem as the astrophysicists not realizing they are actually looking at an evolving quantum field, not events moving through a space. They see a solid "reality", not the actual evolving world of light (energy).

This is what enlightenment is; the shift in perspective from one to the other. I began living in the world of light, the quantum world, when I was 24.....

As for the acid, I know what it was.....it was the stuff that disolved spoons and several layers of my skin off....

The night I did it without harm, I had been fasting all day since 4 AM and repeating a prayer in Arabic, the translation of I still do not know, 1000 times. I broke the fast and did it. (All my teacher's students and his own teacher were there to witness this.) I had faith.

As I was leaving, he said I could do it again now at any time, but not for just the curious, only true seekers.....

In the morning when I went to the restaurant for breakfast, the waiter, who had arranged my meeting the Haj, had about 20 people waiting to see me do it.....just curious....I had doubt, but did it anyway to save Tahn's face and burned the hell out of my hands....

The role of "perception" is crucial to our understanding of quantum mechacnics on all scales. All your external, surrounding, events have already occurred. We can only see the past. This means everything has already evolved for us, each, individually. If those events had not already occurred, you couldn't see them.

At the same time, we seem to lead the evolution of the universe since we see everything in the past fading away with distance.

In a spherical dilation pit, "life" "grows" "upward" against the direction of gravity and time, while all masses "go with the flow", so to speak.

Time evolves all events forward in the forward direction of time, but time has no depth, so events have no depth in time, no permanence, and no actual depth in space.

Edited by Captcass, : Addition


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Captcass
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Message 69 of 189 (862815)
09-13-2019 2:33 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by RAZD
09-13-2019 1:53 PM


Re: Interesting
I am saying she is right on the model being wrong.

The constant determines the distance to the cosmological horizon regardless of what it is. Higher constant = smaller universe, lower = bigger, because time appears to stop at those distances.

As for your math, the constant is equal to 1 in order to get the result....

I am not dividing by 1.

Edited by Captcass, : No reason given.


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Captcass
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Message 71 of 189 (862818)
09-13-2019 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by RAZD
09-13-2019 3:15 PM


Re: Interesting and infinity ( ∞ )
My model will be tested when the new James Webb scope goes up. Where the recessional velocity appears to reach c, we will see relativistic points of light if it is due to recessional velocity. If it is due to slower time, we will see form, as we do with GnZ11 with an apparent recessional velocity of .98c.

The math is conceptual and you can play with it as you like, but it is a valid mathematical statement confirmed by others who have reviewed it. I'm sorry if you cannot grasp the concept. Your constant always equals 1 if the result is 1. "0" is fun to play with too, and i, ........

Edited by Captcass, : spelling


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Captcass
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Message 73 of 189 (862820)
09-13-2019 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Tangle
09-13-2019 3:31 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
The journal put out the release....

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Captcass
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Message 75 of 189 (862823)
09-13-2019 3:53 PM
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09-13-2019 3:48 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
Thank you.

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Captcass
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Message 80 of 189 (862836)
09-13-2019 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Tanypteryx
09-13-2019 5:34 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
"quantum mechanics and astrophysics or science and religion"

Not religion. In my paper I call it the universal cosmic consciousness, which is not unique. both Einstein and Newton considered the possibility that the universe was somehow alive.

Religion implies too many other things such as ritual, moral law, dietary law, etc. I differentiate between spirituality and religion.

I am showing how the universe can be manifested out of simple self-awareness; the relativistic effects that manifest the apparent energy that forms the masses. The physicality and the sciences that describe that follow that, but they are still quantum events.

I am not going to comment on "problems" in the various religions. I will note that they all contain a core truth, a golden spiritual nugget: If you love your greater self creating you from within, your world becomes miraculous. I.e., the quantum continuum evolves forward for you in "scientifically" unexpected ways, and the love backfills you 10 fold.

Sorry about the molecular alignment problem. I was rushing at the end...


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Captcass
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Message 82 of 189 (862838)
09-13-2019 8:28 PM
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09-13-2019 7:54 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
"...on the spiritual side...."

I don't really see a problem in perception on the spiritual side. If we go back to religion, yes, there are many problems with many "religious" representations of spirituality, from my point of view.

"How exactly are you showing this?"

I can't explain this any more clearly than in the paper.

"How do you define manifested......"

become apparent

"... and simple self awareness?"

The IATIA state - I Am That I Am

"Is there a scale of self awareness from simple to complex that I can use to measure self awareness to determine its level?"

Ask your yogi....."And they asked the wise man, 'what about the others?', and he replied, 'There are no others.'

"....the relativistic effects that manifest the apparent energy that forms the masses."

Energy is only apparent. As are the masses it comprises. Once the energy is "apparently" manifested we can begin applying the physical sciences to it...


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Captcass
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Message 86 of 189 (862843)
09-13-2019 10:05 PM
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09-13-2019 9:37 PM


Re: and more infinity (((∞)))
((Δt1 / (1 + 2.2686*10^-18)) CAN approach, but never reach ∞....

just as Δt1 CAN → ∞. but also can never reach it.....

And they do so at different rates and one does not ever equal the other


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Message 87 of 189 (862844)
09-13-2019 10:21 PM
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09-13-2019 9:29 PM


Re: Is This Science Going Anywhere?
"I'll wait to read the Nobel Committee description..."

As I noted above, the James Webb scope being launched in 2021 will be a great test...


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Message 94 of 189 (862859)
09-14-2019 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Phat
09-14-2019 4:04 PM


quote:
what personally convinced you that you were possibly on to something new or never discussed the way you framed it

I have been studying QM and GR for years. Decades ago I saw a comment that GR described a curvature in the forward direction of time. I have been trying to picture that ever since.

About 5 or 6 years ago I had the inspiration about gravity being an evolution of events within the continuum. For that to be valid, I had to be able to explain Ho as due to time dilation. Though I now see it as fairly simple, it took me three years to come up with the correct explanation and derivation.

In all my years of research I have never found anything like what I finally came up with when I put the pieces all together.

If you would like to start another thread about spirituality, I would be happy to participate.

I understand the science guys not wanting "religion" here. That is why I differentiate between spirituality and religion. "Religion" contains too many gross errors. I am not a Christian. I am a Buchrishinjewmus I tell the Christians I am not a Christian, I follow Jesus instead.

I tell the astro folk that spacetime has 2 elements, space and time. They are looking at the physical spatial aspect, and it is diffcult for them to shift perspective to what is happening in the ephemeral time aspect, but there is a time aspect to consider.

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