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mike the wiz

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Message 6 of 13 (86272)
02-14-2004 12:28 PM

Reply to: Message 5 by Silent H
02-14-2004 12:00 PM

I think the Scottish scientist (I forget his name at the moment) who came up with the idea of an Old Earth, and uniformitarianism was more important overall

Is it Charles Lyell?

I prefer Catastrophism.

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02-14-2004 1:07 PM

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02-14-2004 12:53 PM

By the way I realize I forgot to give you some credit in another thread. I was talking about Xian posters that I like and I forgot to mention you. And you just tossed me a doozy with Lyell.

Hehe, it's OK, I haven't found that thread, which one is it?

I was actually thinking of James Hutton. Both scottish geologists, Hutton preceded (and influenced) Lyell, but Lyell did get a bit more of the credit for producing evidence for the theory, and I guess he did influence Darwin more directly.

Yes, Lyell is the one I've heard things about, for the reasons you said - gradual change etc. I think if my memory serves me correctly that the previous great debate was between Catastrophism and Uniformatarianism, I think the latter was the newer theory. I've heard as you say, that they could both be viable nowadays.

What's a doozy?

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Message 10 of 13 (86288)
02-14-2004 1:42 PM

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02-14-2004 1:26 PM

In this case you busted up my though process because I then realized I don't know which scottish scientist ought to get a day of his own (even if I was thinking of Hutton).

Oh....sorry I didn't mean to bust your chops over this, Lol, you probably do have a good point about Darwin day because as you say he wasn't American, besides - he's already on my ten pound notes!

I guess in Scotland they don't have any volcanos or earthquakes, but they must have at least heard of them.

Well, the UK is hardly a hotspot for such activity, infact I've never even felt a quiver from an earthquake in tea and biscuits Britain.

Uniformitarianism is a blank statement that the processes we see today can be thought to be true in the past.

Yes. Present is the key to the past etc.. Though I don't personally agree with that way of thinking there might well be truth to it, though I have issues with "past tense" things.

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