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Faith 
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Message 895 of 953 (863081)
09-19-2019 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 893 by Taq
09-19-2019 5:26 PM


Re: Obama's birthplace
Who said it's important? I already answered your questions. I only said I have ideological objections to counter the accusation that I have hate or racism toward him. None of this has to do with the Kenya question in my mind. As I said I'm just answering accusations. And now i'm answerintg yours about how it's supposedly so important to me. it isn't. I'm simply answering according to my understanding. We can stop any time. Ho hum.

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Message 897 of 953 (863098)
09-20-2019 5:44 AM
Reply to: Message 896 by Taq
09-19-2019 6:01 PM


Re: Obama's birthplace
Looked up the subject on You Tube and found some discussions from a few years ago, one of them showing the certificate on a screen and going into great detail about various numbers on it. I was only going to post on a few letters that don't seem to fit what an old typewriter would do: that is, the same letter should appear the same wherever it occurs in the text: if one is high all should be high, if one is faded looking because it didn't strike hard enough every use of that letter should look like that. But I see that there are many other issues that can be raised about the birth certificate and I'm not up to spending time on it so I'm going to drop the subject for now.
Cheers.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 899 of 953 (863100)
09-20-2019 6:15 AM
Reply to: Message 898 by PaulK
09-20-2019 5:56 AM


Re: Obama's birthplace
But you won't see ONE faint letter between well inked letters.

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Faith 
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Message 906 of 953 (863109)
09-20-2019 10:51 AM


So you've satisfied yourselves that you got it right and I got it wrong no matter what I say, and of course Theodoric got everything I said wrong, but no matter, he must be right anyway. Hooray for you. As I said I've dropped this subject. Have a nice day.

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Message 913 of 953 (863142)
09-21-2019 5:00 AM
Reply to: Message 912 by PaulK
09-21-2019 4:34 AM


I didn't think it fit the forgery explanation either. There are other arguments for it, however, but I'm not going to explore them. I'll just concede the point and agree that he was not born in Kenya but in Hawaii.

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Faith 
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Message 915 of 953 (863157)
09-21-2019 2:03 PM
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09-21-2019 1:58 PM


Yes I've thought it was a forgery, but when I saw it on my blog with the discussion of the errors I didn't think it could be explained as a forgery. I thought maybe if I spent more time on it I'd see the reasoning for that but I didn't really spend the time on it and I don't see the reasoning for it now. I still have my doubts of course, but I'm not going to put in the time to check them out and it doesn't look like a forgery to me so I'm being quite honest to concede the point.

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Message 917 of 953 (863164)
09-21-2019 2:43 PM
Reply to: Message 916 by Theodoric
09-21-2019 2:18 PM


Yes I now concede that the evidence supports the idea that he was born in the USA. I still have my doubts, as I said, but to this point the best evidence is for his being born in Hawaii.

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Faith 
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Message 919 of 953 (863188)
09-21-2019 11:55 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by ramoss
09-21-2019 11:48 PM


Re: Obama's birthplace
Depends on what is ON YouTube of course, as with any medium, whether it has anything true to offer or not.
I know absolutely nothing about the supposed Kenyan birth certificates.

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Faith 
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Message 922 of 953 (865331)
10-23-2019 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 921 by Theodoric
10-23-2019 8:55 AM


Re: Yup racist donnie policies
Why should what you say be preferred over what Trump said? You simply condemn his every word and assert your own, so there's no way to find out what the truth is.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 925 of 953 (865370)
10-24-2019 12:41 AM
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10-23-2019 11:10 PM


Re: Yup racist donnie policies
Satan seems to spend quite a bit of time at EvC.

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Faith 
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Message 927 of 953 (865378)
10-24-2019 1:57 AM
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10-24-2019 12:56 AM


Re: Evil In the Oval Office
Sorry, I have no patience with your totally one-sided Leftist propaganda.

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Faith 
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Message 930 of 953 (865408)
10-24-2019 3:06 PM
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10-24-2019 4:07 AM


Re: Evil In the Oval Office
That is utterly and completely false.

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Faith 
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Message 933 of 953 (866261)
11-08-2019 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 932 by Theodoric
11-08-2019 11:08 AM


Re: More hate and racism from Conservatives
Sounds to me like the "paranoia" is on your side, certainly there's plenty of hatred for the right getting expressed there. So the right does not want to be part of a nation run by the left. The feeling seems to be mutual. The nation is about as polarized as it's possible to get. Instead of vilifying the right how about suggesting some ways we could live our lives without being under the totalitarian thumb of the left. Any suggestions?

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Faith 
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Message 937 of 953 (866305)
11-09-2019 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 936 by Theodoric
11-09-2019 11:14 AM


Re: 4th item Faith needs to back with actual evidence
Hey when I can I'll produce the info you ask for but if not, I'm expecting all this to blow wide open pretty soon and then what I say won't matter anyway.

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Faith 
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Message 939 of 953 (866321)
11-09-2019 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 938 by dwise1
11-09-2019 7:45 PM


The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
I wish you guys would get something into your heads. Evidence of the truth of what I post is not always the most importqant thing. It is common here for just the Liberal Leftist Democrat point of view to get expressed and what I am often trying to do is simply express the Right wing point of view in contrast. Proving it is quite secondary, I just want you to know that this other point of view exists, in fact it is what I am hearing all the time, and I assume you aren't aware of it so my aim is just to get it heard. All this clamor for me to prove it sounds important but sometimes it just fogs up the main point, which is nothing more than HEY THERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW HERE. Even if I come up with evidence you aren't going to accept it anyway, which just underscores the need to get across the simple fact that although you aren't going to agree with anything I say I do represent another point of view that is held by a lot of people out there.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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