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jar
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Message 3346 of 4573 (863595)
09-27-2019 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 3345 by AZPaul3
09-27-2019 3:59 PM


Re: The whistleblower's complaint
I'm not very confident of that fact. The only real weight of our Constitution is our tacit agreement to abide by it. History has shown that has been ignored in the past. There was even a war as well as explicit flaunting of the provisions by several Presidents. If we look at world history there are even examples of a Nations Military siding with what they saw as a Leader over whatever was written in the Nation State's Constitution.

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Message 3347 of 4573 (863599)
09-27-2019 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 3346 by jar
09-27-2019 4:12 PM


Re: The whistleblower's complaint
What I meant was that he is old and eats too many hamburgers.
If he tries such a thing we can broach this subject again.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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JonF
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Message 3348 of 4573 (863614)
09-27-2019 9:54 PM


Sure, Russian Interference is OK
BUSTED: Trump told Russia he was not concerned about their election interferencePublished
quote:
"President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the U.S. election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter, The Washington Post reported Friday evening.
The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the day before had relieved ‘great pressure’ on him, the newspaper noted.

  
Percy
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Message 3349 of 4573 (863705)
09-29-2019 9:06 AM


About this impeachment thing, the Kremlin has some concerns
As reported by the New York Times, the Kremlin hopes no Trump/Putin phone calls are made public.
What should our answer be? Why, of course, Kremlin, no problem. We'll be sure to keep your nefarious manipulation of our national dupe out of the public spotlight.
Not.
--Percy

  
vimesey
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Message 3350 of 4573 (863733)
09-29-2019 4:48 PM


More info
Has this one come out in the States yet ?
No reason to probe Bidens: former Ukraine prosecutor - BBC News
A BBC reporter has spoken to a former Ukrainian prosecutor, who told the reporter that he had met Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who asked him if it was possible to investigate the Bidens in his country.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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jar
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Message 3351 of 4573 (863737)
09-29-2019 5:45 PM
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09-29-2019 4:48 PM


Re: More info
Kinda Sorta.
It's certainly ONE of the things currently under examination. But there are also what could be far bigger issue such as it seems there may be documents of conversations between Trump and foreign parties that was withheld from the Muller investigation.

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JonF
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Message 3352 of 4573 (863739)
09-29-2019 6:07 PM
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09-29-2019 4:48 PM


Re: More info
I hadn't hear that particular nugget. If true it would ensure impeachment.
But Moscow Mitch will still have his back.

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jar
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Message 3353 of 4573 (863747)
09-29-2019 9:01 PM
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09-29-2019 6:07 PM


Re: More info
It's even more interesting since it would almost certainly also include Pence and Barr as well as other official and personal individuals.

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JonF
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Message 3354 of 4573 (863803)
09-30-2019 4:15 PM


‘Retaliation in plain sight’: Legal experts stunned by Trump admitting he’s trying to uncover whistleblower ID
quote:
President Donald Trump once again ramped up his attacks on a still-unidentified intelligence community whistleblower by telling reporters that he and his allies are trying to find out the person’s identity.

(Those are the whistleblower's lawyers)
We are officially a country without law.

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Message 3355 of 4573 (863804)
09-30-2019 4:51 PM
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09-30-2019 4:15 PM


JonF writes:
‘Retaliation in plain sight’: Legal experts stunned by Trump admitting he’s trying to uncover whistleblower ID
Dems now have the option of adding witness intimidation to the articles of impeachment.
Prophesies of Trump self-impeaching are coming true. He's doing it right out in public.

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dwise1
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Message 3356 of 4573 (863807)
09-30-2019 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3354 by JonF
09-30-2019 4:15 PM


"Doing so is a violation of federal law."
So what's the violation of one more federal law to Trump? He's run out of room for any more notches on his belt (and he does have a very long belt).
Speaking of which, does anybody know the status on getting Trump's tax returns and loan documents from Deutsche Bank?
Edited by dwise1, : "Speaking of which" The mind is after all much quicker than the typing fingers.

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Percy
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Message 3357 of 4573 (863856)
10-02-2019 9:23 AM


Will Trump Ever Leave Office?
If you want to be scared out of your wits, read Will Trump Ever Leave the White House?
--Percy

  
vimesey
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Message 3358 of 4573 (863857)
10-02-2019 9:43 AM


On a weird note...
Apparently, one of Trump’s suggestions for the border (as well as shooting migrants in the legs) is a water filled trench stocked with alligators and snakes:
Donald Trump 'suggested shooting migrants in the legs' - BBC News
We could lend you James Bond....
Edited by vimesey, : No reason given.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Taq
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Message 3359 of 4573 (863865)
10-02-2019 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 3358 by vimesey
10-02-2019 9:43 AM


Re: On a weird note...
vimesey writes:
We could lend you James Bond....
That would be a great idea. At this point, we would be happy with Timothy Dalton.
However, I think our own Impossible Mission Force has already helped us out. Apparently, one of their agents put on a Trump mask and admitted to impeachable offenses.

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DrJones*
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Message 3360 of 4573 (863871)
10-02-2019 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3358 by vimesey
10-02-2019 9:43 AM


Re: On a weird note...
this is the kind of stuff that normally would cause a rational person to say "that's too crazy to believe" but in the age of trump nothing is too crazy.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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