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Theodoric
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Message 145 of 189 (864052)
10-06-2019 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Captcass
10-05-2019 11:40 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
You are a looney is what you are. Nothing I have posted is libelous. So tell us who reviewed the article before publication. I quote PZ Meyers here
quote:
... it isn't a real science journal at all, but is the... website of a small group... obsessed with the idea of Hoyle and Wickramasinghe that life originated in outer space and simply rained down on Earth.

Sue away.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 147 of 189 (864055)
10-06-2019 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by Captcass
10-06-2019 10:43 AM


Re: Quantum Theory
Cautioned me for what? Why are you making legal threats? Because I pointed out that this "journal" is considered a farce on the scientific world.

New owners? As far as I can tell this is still Rudolf Schild's pet vanity project to put out papers no reputable journal will publish. He has papers on nonwackadoodle subjects in other journals.

So how about you quit being an ass and quit threatening legal action. It is quite telling that the only people that threaten legal action are cranks and charlatans.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 149 of 189 (864059)
10-06-2019 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Captcass
10-06-2019 11:46 AM


So the good captain has resorted to threatening legal action
Yes it was a response. You made a threatening post. I responded. You then again doubled down and "cautioned" me. Well go fuck yourself. Do not threaten me with legal action and expect me to submissively slink away.
Ad hominem? Yeah probably, but a think a tempered response to your threats.
It is quite telling that the only people that threaten legal action are cranks and charlatans.

If you feel this pertains to you maybe you should rethink a few things.

Edited by Theodoric, : new subtitle


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 154 of 189 (864071)
10-06-2019 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Captcass
10-06-2019 2:43 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
For instance, even though the government has declassified and shown UAP (UFO) objects flying alongside our fighters,

Source and evidence please.

Some of the scientists published in the JofC are doing coordinated research on how they communicate and how they are making quantum leaps to get here and maneuver like they do.

Not sure how you can do research on something of which there is only supposed photos and video of. Without having the actual subject available all you have is supposition and wild ass guesses.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 158 of 189 (864079)
10-06-2019 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Captcass
10-06-2019 3:29 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
All that is, is evidence of UAP's. UAP stands for "unidentified aerial phenomenon" . There is no evidence that the phenomena is from another planet or aliens. I guess it could be, but there is no evidence it is. People have been seeing UAP's and UFO's for a very long time. As of yet there has been no evidence that they are some sort of alien craft. So far all that the UFO videos and pictures tell us is that there are UFO's. Nothing more.

I see Dr. Schild couldn't get any publisher to touch this book. All that book seems to be is a sort of mental masturbation for the true believers.
Here is my favorite lines from a review of the book.

quote:
To their credit, the authors do not claim to have “proved” the reality of these experiences. They concede that they are unprovable with any methods known to humanity.

quote:
There is nothing in these reports to suggest that the experiencers are experiencing anything other than their own thoughts. The scientific or philosophical ideas add nothing to those disciplines, the religious ideas may be of value if they are taken on faith like other religious thoughts.

I am not impressed with self published scientific books


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 167 of 189 (864088)
10-06-2019 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by Captcass
10-06-2019 4:18 PM


Re: Quantum Theory
I had a long, 2 hour, experience with one about 300' in diameter that came within 1/4 mile when I was 16. It maneuvered in physically impossible fashions. It made Newsday the next day as so many people in Patchogue, a town to the east of where I was, saw it.
No one on this planet could possible keep such technology a secret. Too many people would be involved.

Personal incredulity is evidence of nothing.
Do you have evidence of this Newsday article? Not saying this did not happen, but the original article would be interesting.

Still you have presented no evidence of alien visitation. No one has presented evidence of alien visitation. Ever.

The journal you published in, like the book Schild self published, is not a respected by the scientific community. A scientific journal would not publish a paper from someone without any credentials in the field.

BTW, how much did they charge you to publish the paper in the journal?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 169 of 189 (864093)
10-06-2019 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Captcass
10-06-2019 6:43 PM


No evidence of aliens visiting earth
I hope you see one.

Why do you assume I have not?
I have and it did seem not earthly. But there was no other evidence. All I can say about it is that it was an unidentified flying object. I have no idea what it was. I guess it is possible it was of alien origin, but as there has never been any evidence that aliens have visited earth that is far down the list of possibilities.

I think it takes a bit of hubris to think an advanced alien civilization(actually seemingly multiple civilization, as there are a myriad of different flying objects observed) would visit our out of the way planet and make no contact whatsoever.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 171 of 189 (864095)
10-06-2019 7:23 PM
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10-06-2019 7:14 PM


Re: No evidence of aliens visiting earth
There is no evidence of contact with an alien civilization. Just UFOs and stories. No evidence.
What I saw was "alien"...from where? I don't know. I have had 2 other observations, one of which i caught on film. Please note we get very little samll plane/helo activity here. It is the jump off point for the GC routes to Asia, so we get a lot of high altitude traffic.

Irrelevant. Not evidence.

My understanding is the the first contact will involve an autopsy because the governmental consensus is we have to know how to kill them....

And the whackaloon sensor just pegged. So who informed you of this? Men in black suits?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 174 of 189 (864099)
10-06-2019 8:26 PM
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10-06-2019 8:21 PM


Re: No evidence of aliens visiting earth
A Pentagon policy thing.

Yeah. Sure.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 176 of 189 (864107)
10-06-2019 10:35 PM
Reply to: Message 175 by Captcass
10-06-2019 8:44 PM


Re: No evidence of aliens visiting earth
Yes rank speculation. No evidence

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 178 of 189 (864120)
10-07-2019 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 177 by Captcass
10-06-2019 10:48 PM


Re: No evidence of aliens visiting earth
Irrelevant to the subject and seemingly everything else. Your inability to stay on topic on your own thread is quite telling.
Are you a gish galloper too?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 180 of 189 (864148)
10-07-2019 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 179 by Captcass
10-07-2019 10:44 AM


You are not doing science
If you cannot or are unable to support your arguments, then maybe this forum and science are not the places for you to be. This is a science forum, not a faith forum,. If you want to push your religious beliefs then start a new thread under the faith forums. As long as you keep posting this malarkey in the science forum you will be called out on it.
Without verifiable, trustable, falsifiable data you have nothing.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 182 of 189 (864153)
10-07-2019 11:39 AM


Mods,

Captcass writes:

Without spirituality you have nothing, hence your bitter, angry, derisive, cynical nature...and the flaws in your physics only science.


I think this comment exposes that Captcass has no real interested in discussing science. He is proselytizing under the guise of science. This thread should not be in the Science forums. There is no science in his posts, it is religion.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 186 of 189 (864158)
10-07-2019 12:02 PM
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10-07-2019 11:46 AM


Think of it as peer review
This is the peer review your ramblings should have been subjected to before it was "published".

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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