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Author | Topic: Believe in UFOs? This editorial's for you! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I ws talking about what was in that film hyro posted. Nobody there interpreted the objects, just described them. No aliens etc. And I only bring up the demons interpretation as an answer to the ET interpretation. Probably others are now calling them aliens but in the film, no.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
I was talking about the effect that video and the USAF announcement is having on the greater society. There is more than just this room you know, yes?
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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OK.
But wait and see if there is some kind of event such a government revelation might portend, where we are "introduced" to some spaceship and its inhabitants, who are supposedly here to solve all our problems, like maybe climate change, even war perhaps? Maybe we'll be told they are the creators, or planters perhaps, of life on earth too and have come back to see what became of us. So we actually see this "spaceship" on TV and -- "greys" or whatever they are -- then what? I know you think it's too bizarre and won't happen but I do wonder what you would think if it did. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I also mentioned that demons are the gods found all over the world after the Fall. Like those described in the OT I mention above. Scripture references, please.("after the Fall") There isn't any direct statement that I know of, especially identifying the Fall as the specific pivotal point, but there are passages where we see that Satan and his demons are in charge of the world and you have to infer that this wasn't the way the world was originally created so they had to have taken over afterward. Since it was Satan who seduced our original parents the inference is that he earned the right to rule us at that point. There are two references in John to Satan as "the prince of this world." This is one of them:
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me. John 14:30 That is on 'this pageand there is more discussion of these references there. Also, Paul says
1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Well, sacrifice is something people do to "gods," right? So somehow or other the devils or demons became the gods.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
then what? That would be wonderful! Watch the religious crazies and the cosmologists, the politcos and the alt-reich go nuts. We would have a dozen new dedicated "Aliens are here" channels on TV and YouTube. Imagine the discussions on this and the other forums! It's not going to happen is it. You're just teasing me.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Oh it *could* theoretically happen. She is suggesting that in reality it really would be a demonic manifestation of sorts and that the world wouldn't believe it. The world would think as you suggest...that it would seemingly be wonderful to have contact with a higher "life form" that is objectively proven. Not that pesky God and those equally pesky angelic wars of mythos past.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Oh it *could* theoretically happen. That's only if one accepts such a loosey-goosey definition of theoretically. In reality our theories tell us it won't happen (subject to change).
... demonic manifestation ... Sorry, Thug. I know you guys are serious and I shouldn't laugh, but this is just so freakin' hilarious.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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GDR Member Posts: 6202 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
As Pogo would say: "We have met the enemy and he is us"
He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God. Micah 6:8 |
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2423 Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Stanton Friedman was big on the "nuts and bolts" view of UFOs: they were from OUR dimension and were aliens.
The larger UFO researching community took the inner dimensional hypothesis view. There was a joke, from Timothy "Mr. UFO" Beckley, that the evidence shows that these entities are doing acts that violate the laws of physics, but a few "nuts and bolts" are thrown in to make Stanton Friedman "happy". More on the possible nuts and bolts breakthrough:
quote: Glad there is a way to begin to scientifically test actual material. Just a start, which could very well be more of a non-starter. Hope the story gets more detailed and soon. Or will it vanish without mercy? FURTHER COMMENTS: I have noticed that most stories just lift stuff from others. Here is part of a related article that has some different info. Alien hunters led by Blink 182 singer say they are nearing 'some sort of definitive conclusion' | Daily Mail Online I am starting a way after the article started, skipping stuff from the middle, and stopping a good way before the end.
quote: That was some text from an original article from October 5, 2019. Daily Mail introduces us to Steve Justice. He is the guy who seems to be sending samples to labs for testing. Other stories say there are non-disclosure agreements which prevent us from getting any details on just where and how these artifacts were found. But there was a live UFO incident going on in at least one (or more) case. Does this story have legs? Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's not going to happen is it. You're just teasing me. Life has become very weird in recent times so I don't know what to believe about such things. I forget where I first heard this scenario, it wasn't recent. Oh this guy, Christian guy, haven't listened to him in a long time, wonder if he's still out there, gets into really fringey stuff, can't remember his name either. I remember he lives in Florida and was visited by a voodoo demon one night that acted like a living skeleton and got in bed with him. Interesting stuff huh? You miss so much fascinating drama if you aren't a Christian. I think if I tease about something I'm pretty flatfooted about it so you'd know it. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Oh this guy, Christian guy... Not a good start.
gets into really fringey stuff That's kinda redundant.
he lives in Florida Well, that does it. He's toast.
was visited by a voodoo demon one night that acted like a living skeleton and got in bed with him But, of course he was.
Interesting stuff huh? For halloween, yeah.
You miss so much fascinating drama if you aren't a Christian Not fascinating drama. I believe it's called psychotic delusion. There are drugs for this. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You must not have been around many psychotic delusionals.
Oh well. There are many versions of demonic manifestations. The apparitions of "The Virgin Mary" that have been seen by Catholics, mostly children, over the years, are such demonic manifestations. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8561 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Sorry, M'lady, but demonic manifestations are as much bs as gods.
You must not have been around many psychotic delusionals. I have religious nutsoids in my family. I know psychotic delusions when I read them. Voodoo skeletons, apparitions of Mary, visions of Jesus, belief in gods, unicorns, alien anal probes, bigfootses and competent republicans are all psychotic delusions. Seek immediate medical help. There are modern drugs and limited lobotomies that can help. You can be saved from the ravages of religion.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Hey LNA,
I read over your posts but they are too much, I just can't figure out what to respond to. After all your writing I don't even know for sure if you believe in UFOs or what you believe about them. Could I ask you a favor? Could you write a brief abstract of your posts and put it at the top, or bottom as you prefer, condensing the main points in it? I know you can do it because I asked it of you once before and you surprised me with a nicely done condensation. We all have our posting styles, it's like it's in our DNA or something, you can often tell from a distance who wrote what, but some of you guys who lard it on need to help us out here.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Demonic manifestations ARE gods. Or what the gods are. Not the real God but the gods.
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