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Whose idea was it to fire Shokin? Did it have support from Congress and our allies? Was their cause for Shokin to be removed?Do you really think that it was just Joe Biden calling for Shokin to be removed?Now, ask the same thing about Trump firing Comey. Who was Jim Comey investigating? His campaign, which includes some of his children. Who was the person who wanted Comey fired? Trump. Why did Trump say he fired Comey? Because of the investigation into his campaign, which includes his children.Whose the corrupt one?

You ducked the question.Do you really think that it was just Joe Biden calling for Shokin to be removed? So all Joe Biden has to do is say that any investigation into the company Hunter Biden was phony, and you you'll be ok with it? Trump stated in a TV inteview that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation."On May 11 Trump told Lester Holt in an NBC News interview, "When I decided [to fire Comey], I said to myself, I said, 'You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story",[13] while reiterating his belief that there was no proof Russia was behind any election interference.[65][66] "--President Trump
Dismissal of James Comey - WikipediaEdited by Admin, : Fix quote.

Shokin was fired because he refused to investigate corruption.

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But sources ranging from former Obama administration officials to an anti-corruption advocate in Ukraine say the official, Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim.

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It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe.
What really happened when Biden forced out Ukraine's top prosecutor

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Ask Paul Manafort if it's a hoax. People don't go to jail for hoaxes. Also, what about those 12 Russians who have been indicted for interfering in our elections? Just a hoax?

The difference being that my sources are based on facts. Here is a portion of the letter that spelled out the scope of the Special Counsels authority:

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The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

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(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

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(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

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(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. 600.4(a).

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(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. . . . .
The Scope of the Mueller Probe: Will the Public Learn What Was Uncovered? - Lawfare

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That includes discovering if there were Russians involved with interference in our election. It also includes any other crimes that were discovered as part of this investigation, such as Michael Flynn lying about contacts with Russians or Manafort's tax evasion. They started with fish, such as Trump campaign people knowing about the release of damaging Hillary emails before they were public.

That is false. If there was corrupt intent then it is a crime.It is also strange that you don't hold Biden to the same standard.

Using the same logic, there was no corrupt intent on Joe Biden's behalf even if he fired Shokin to stop an investigation into the company his son worked for. A judge can rule any which way that judge wants to rule, but it is still illegal if a judge takes money from the defendant and then rules in favor of the defendant.Are you sure you understand what corruption is, or how morality and ethics works?

The firing of Shokin did not stop the investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked for. In fact, there is every indication that the firing of Shokin increased scrutiny of that company.

He didn't. The entire Western community wanted Shokin fired because he was refusing to investigate political corruption. Then you shouldn't have a problem with what Biden did since those same things apply.

Why is that a problem? I would have bragged, too. What Biden did was a big win for Western democracies that were trying to fight corruption in Ukraine. He should have bragged about it.

It is as clear as day.NYT report the day after the firing:

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Bowing to pressure from international donors, the Ukrainian Parliament voted on Tuesday to remove a prosecutor general who had clung to power for months despite visible signs of corruption.
PolitiFact | Donald Trump’s boasts about former Ukrainian prosecutor’s fairness ring false

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Excerpts from the same article:

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* "All decent people were in favor of Shokin's sacking," Anders slund, a resident fellow at the Atlantic Council told PolitiFact. "Biden led a Western/anticorruption consensus."

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* Steven Pifer is a career foreign service officer who was ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton and deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs under President George W. Bush. Pifer told PolitiFact that "virtually everyone" he knew in the U.S. government and virtually all non-governmental experts on Ukraine "felt that Shokin was not doing his job and should be fired. As far as I can recall, they all concurred with the vice president telling Poroshenko that the U.S. government would not extend the $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine until Shokin was removed from office."

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* This view is reflected in a Sept. 2015 speech that then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, delivered in Odessa, Ukraine (emphasis ours):

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"There is one glaring problem that threatens all of the good work that regional leaders here in Odessa, in Kharkiv, in Lviv, and elsewhere are doing to improve the business climate and build a new model of government that serves the people," Pyatt said, later adding, "That obstacle is the failure of the institution of the Prosecutor General of Ukraine to successfully fight internal corruption. Rather than supporting Ukraine’s reforms and working to root out corruption, corrupt actors within the Prosecutor General’s office are making things worse by openly and aggressively undermining reform."
PolitiFact | Donald Trump’s boasts about former Ukrainian prosecutor’s fairness ring false

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It's a fact, Faith. It's not spin. The Western community of democracies was calling for Shokin to be fired.

You are only demonstrating that you refuse to look at anything that contradicts your beliefs.

"The House on Wednesday voted overwhelmingly to condemn President Donald Trump's withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria."
https://www.nbcnews.com/...mp-withdrawal-u-s-troops-n1067586Those yea's included conservatives.

They like his policies? Really? This has always struck me as a weird statement because I see very little in the Republican or Trump platform that looks attractive to the middle or lower class. For example:1. Massive tax cuts for the rich.
2. No support for an increase in minimum wage.
3. Gutting of Social Security and Medicare.
4. Gutless foreign policy.
5. No support for maternity leave.
6. Self dealing, such as granting himself federal contracts for his hotels.Other than guns and a border wall, what is it that attracts Trump's followers? Is it because he calls Democrats names?

There is nothing demonstrating that this is due to Trump policies. In fact, tariffs have probably slowed down job growth. It doesn't. They were already rich, so why weren't they increasing the number of jobs with the wealth they already had? Minimum wage is causing poorer families to go bankrupt right now. Republicans have long sought to end Medicare and Social Security. Obama didn't abandon our allies to ethnic cleansing. That would be the mind of a corrupt businessman. Again, you don't understand the basics of morality and ethics. It is immoral and unethical to use your office to enrich yourself with tax dollars and foreign dollars when you are an elected politician.

1. The Trump campaign knew ahead of time about the release of Dem emails on Wikileaks.2. Ukraine policy was strangely changed in the Republican platform to be more pro-Russia, with most people indicating that it was the Trump campaign that asked for the changes.3. Trump openly called for Russia to get Clinton's emails.4. The meeting in Trump Tower with known Russian agents.5. Carter Page had already been unwittingly involved in one Russian intelligence operation, and claimed that he had worked for the Kremlin. He was one of Trump's foreign policy experts.6. The Trump campaign was already trying to get sanctions lifted on Russia before they even moved into the White House, including lies about contacts with Russian ambassadors.I could list many more. There was plenty of smoke, more than enough to open an investigation and make sure there wasn't any fire.