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Faith 
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Message 2986 of 5796 (864728)
10-15-2019 5:16 PM
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10-15-2019 1:54 PM


Re: "Trump's Horrid Video?"
We need to know who that "somebody" was.

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Faith 
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Message 2987 of 5796 (864729)
10-15-2019 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 2983 by Taq
10-15-2019 2:52 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Taq writes:
ICANT writes:
You do know that Trump did not have to have any reason to fire Comey, don't you.
Trump stated in a TV inteview that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.
AGAIN: "You do know that Trump did not have to have any reason to fire Comey, don't you." ? He could fire him for any reason he wanted, and his traitor of a role in a bogus investigation which was only a harassment or an attempted coup seems like a good enough reason to me.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Message 2988 of 5796 (864732)
10-15-2019 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 2985 by Faith
10-15-2019 5:10 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
Choice between your sources and mine I go with mine.
The difference being that my sources are based on facts.
And the Mueller investigation found some stuff to prosecute totally unrelated to its reason for existing.
Here is a portion of the letter that spelled out the scope of the Special Counsels authority:
quote:
The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI Director James B. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. . . . .
The Scope of the Mueller Probe: Will the Public Learn What Was Uncovered? - Lawfare
That includes discovering if there were Russians involved with interference in our election. It also includes any other crimes that were discovered as part of this investigation, such as Michael Flynn lying about contacts with Russians or Manafort's tax evasion.
The whole thing about finding something to pin on Trump, the whole thing about Russian collusion by Trump or his campaign team, was a big fat indefensible and probably illegal fishing expedition and there are people connected to it who should be prosecuted but in the Democrats' current condition of third world/Fascist-Communist type corruption probably won't be.
They started with fish, such as Trump campaign people knowing about the release of damaging Hillary emails before they were public.

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Taq
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Message 2989 of 5796 (864733)
10-15-2019 5:52 PM
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10-15-2019 5:24 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
AGAIN: "You do know that Trump did not have to have any reason to fire Comey, don't you." ? He could fire him for any reason he wanted, and his traitor of a role in a bogus investigation which was only a harassment or an attempted coup seems like a good enough reason to me.
That is false. If there was corrupt intent then it is a crime.
It is also strange that you don't hold Biden to the same standard.

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Faith 
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Message 2990 of 5796 (864734)
10-15-2019 5:54 PM
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10-15-2019 5:52 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
There was no "corrupt intent" in firing Comey, that's what I said. And since he could fire Comey for any reason whatever your "corrupt intent" is a bunch of baloney anyway.
I have no idea what you mean about Biden.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 2991 of 5796 (864735)
10-15-2019 6:23 PM
Reply to: Message 2990 by Faith
10-15-2019 5:54 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
There was no "corrupt intent" in firing Comey, that's what I said.
Using the same logic, there was no corrupt intent on Joe Biden's behalf even if he fired Shokin to stop an investigation into the company his son worked for.
And since he could fire Comey for any reason whatever your "corrupt intent" is a bunch of baloney anyway.
A judge can rule any which way that judge wants to rule, but it is still illegal if a judge takes money from the defendant and then rules in favor of the defendant.
Are you sure you understand what corruption is, or how morality and ethics works?

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Faith 
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Message 2992 of 5796 (864737)
10-15-2019 7:16 PM
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10-15-2019 6:23 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
The firing of Comey did not affect the investigation in any way at all, let alone stop it. The comparison is bogus.
And Comey lied to Trump and leaked stuff he shouldn't have.

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Taq
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Message 2993 of 5796 (864793)
10-16-2019 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 2992 by Faith
10-15-2019 7:16 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
The firing of Comey did not affect the investigation in any way at all, let alone stop it.
The firing of Shokin did not stop the investigation into the company Hunter Biden worked for. In fact, there is every indication that the firing of Shokin increased scrutiny of that company.

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Faith 
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Message 2994 of 5796 (864797)
10-16-2019 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2993 by Taq
10-16-2019 5:28 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
I thought you said Biden supposedly had Shokin fired to stop an investigation, so what ARE you talking about? In any case Trump had no such motive and it didn't stop the investigation. Give it up. Hard as you all work to find corruption in Trump's doings there is none.

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Taq
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Message 2995 of 5796 (864798)
10-16-2019 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 2994 by Faith
10-16-2019 6:32 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
I thought you said Biden supposedly had Shokin fired to stop an investigation,
He didn't. The entire Western community wanted Shokin fired because he was refusing to investigate political corruption.
In any case Trump had no such motive and it didn't stop the investigation.
Then you shouldn't have a problem with what Biden did since those same things apply.

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Faith 
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Message 2996 of 5796 (864799)
10-16-2019 10:03 PM
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10-16-2019 6:58 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Biden bragged about threatening Ukraine with the withdrawal of aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor. Trump fired Comey because he lied and leaked information. I see no comparison.

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Message 2997 of 5796 (864830)
10-17-2019 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 2996 by Faith
10-16-2019 10:03 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
Biden bragged about threatening Ukraine with the withdrawal of aid if they didn't fire the prosecutor.
Why is that a problem? I would have bragged, too. What Biden did was a big win for Western democracies that were trying to fight corruption in Ukraine. He should have bragged about it.

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Faith 
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Message 2998 of 5796 (864858)
10-17-2019 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2997 by Taq
10-17-2019 11:25 AM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
That's just Democrat spin. It really isn't at all clear that the firing was for any other reason than that the prosecutor WAS investigating matters relating to Biden's son. And there is no reason to believe the prosecutor was corrupt either. And the whole accusation of Trump is nuts, but maliciously nuts the way all the stuff against him has been.

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Faith 
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Message 2999 of 5796 (864859)
10-17-2019 6:24 PM
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10-17-2019 11:25 AM


Lindsay Graham says Ukraine phone call not what Dems say it is
Start at 2:00
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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 3000 of 5796 (864860)
10-17-2019 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2998 by Faith
10-17-2019 6:19 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
And there is no reason to believe the prosecutor was corrupt either.
multiple republican senators (and other's within the international community) agreed with the move to get rid of the prosecutor. It wasn't Biden acting on his own.
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office | CNN Politics

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