The Atheist Experience

That seems backwards. The less you have, the easier it should be to be Christlike. Christ didn't have much.Note that the widow who only had two mites had less trouble giving it up than the rich man.

As I said, the less you have the less you worry about losing it. Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. If you love something, let it go. We wouldn't have made up so many cliches about it if there wasn't a germ of truth to it.You're working too hard at being un-Christlike. Turn socialist and it will come naturally.

This is the wrong thread to display how ignorant you are about evolution.

Isn't it the same thing?

But you're making that up. I have never advocated that.Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

That's your comic-book version of socialism. We're talking about Jesus' version of socialism here.

I have shown you otherwise. Look at Ananias and Sapphira. Look at the widow with two mites. Look at the widow who gave Elijah the last of her food.If you think Jesus' teaching doesn't apply to everybody, YOU need to show otherwise.

I wish you would follow up once in a while and think things through instead of bringing up the same old same old over and over again.

That's ironic. You put the source ahead of the message but you don't trust the source of the source.

No. You said it. I was just pointing out that it was ironic. No you don't. You believe that the characters always existed. You assert that the characters always existed. But you have never made a substantive argument to back up your beliefs and assertions. Evidence always trumps faith. See the story of Thomas.

The first thing you need to understand is that, "I believe..." is not an argument. Well, you're the one who rejects scripture, remember? I'm the one who has to keep pointing out to you what it actually says. Where on earth do you get that nonsense? I'm asking YOU for an argument. You're not God. There is no enemy. Been there, done that, done it again and again and again. The T-shirt has been washed so many times it's almost disappeared.I've even given you an example to show that in real life YOU put the message before the messenger: You don't throw your bills away and worship the mailman. You know how stupid that would be.

No, Ananias and Sapphira were not poor. They had land to sell. I didn't ask you for your opinion. I already know what your opinion is. I asked you to back up your opinion using Jesus' words. No I don't. It's in the Bible, in black and white.(Note that I am not the one telling you to give more. I would accept your reasoning. But the question is, would Jesus accept your reasoning?) The Bible says what it says, whether I'm a believer or an unbeliever. You're the believer. You tell me. I'm not advocating that you should follow your leader. I'm just wondering why you don't.

No. We do not know that. It isn't a "technicality". It's the whole bloody point. You're grasping for a context that isn't there. Because you claim to believe in the author. How can you honestly pick and choose parts of the story to accept?

What makes you think Jesus didn't take the text as written?

The whole issue is that both Jesus and the devil quoted scripture exactly as it is, not in some voodoo interpretation like you seem to advocate. And notice that the devil's quotes and Jesus' quotes disagreed with each other - i.e. the Bible, taken as "one book", contradicts itself.