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Author Topic:   Common origin of life as proof of evolution
Phat
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Message 19 of 27 (865451)
10-25-2019 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Taq
10-25-2019 12:02 PM


My 2 cents
There is a difference between causing something to happen and allowing nature to run its course. Hypothetically, if God prevented humans from experiencing any bump or bruise, sickness or sin, we would be weaker because of it. Critics will then say that there is no difference between an observer God (hands-off) and no God. So here we are. Pick your belief.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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Phat
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Message 20 of 27 (865452)
10-25-2019 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Theodoric
10-25-2019 12:04 PM


Re: The Abrahamic god is evil
You have always had an issue with the hypothetical God. Perhaps getting stirred up was your destiny.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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Phat
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Message 25 of 27 (865478)
10-25-2019 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by vimesey
10-25-2019 12:30 PM


Re: My 2 cents
Hell was never created for people. Humans only end up in Hell by refusing to accept God through Christ. There would be no good reason not to accept God...unless in so doing you lose your precious freethought independence.

I try and imagine what an atheist would think, however. To them, the God whom I imagine exists is as unrealistic as these silly RPG game characters that I see younger people playing. Everyone wants to hold on to our imagination and freethought. In addition, I am told that the God of my imagination is fantasy and that the reality we all share is the only reality there is. I find comfort in rejecting belief in Hell. Apart from all that, I just realized that this is a science forum so perhaps Im not allowed to imagine anything.

Im getting tired, though. I have to go to a cardiac specialist on Monday. My EKG reading was abnormal and has an additional tick and a jump in it.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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