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Faith 
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Message 16 of 123 (865488)
10-25-2019 6:38 PM
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10-25-2019 4:18 AM


It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump and that's why the other Republicans wanted in. It's an impeachment inquiry under other pretenses.

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Message 17 of 123 (865490)
10-25-2019 6:52 PM
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10-25-2019 6:38 PM


Faith writes:
It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump and that's why the other Republicans wanted in. It's an impeachment inquiry under other pretenses.
And that's as stupid and absurd an assertion as we might expect from those who are totally disconnected from truth, honesty and reality.
The meeting was attended by both Democrats and Republicans who had been vetted to deal with sensitive intelligence while the fools that stormed the meeting seem to be devoid of any respect for law.

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Message 18 of 123 (865491)
10-25-2019 7:34 PM
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10-25-2019 6:38 PM


It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump and that's why the other Republicans wanted in.
the other republicans are idiots. There are republicans on the three committees holding the hearings, they can tell the other republicans what's going on if they wish to.

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Message 19 of 123 (865492)
10-25-2019 8:08 PM
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10-24-2019 9:59 AM


Yesterday 24 Republican Members of the House committed acts of espionage and perhaps treason by forcing their way into an area from which they were barred under US House Rules.
Not only under the House Rules created by the Republicans (and put into effect by Boehner), but much more importantly under the federal laws governing national security and the handling of classified materials and most importantly the maintenance of a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility).
In a SCIF, you store and use classified materials. Access to a SCIF is restricted to authorized personnel only based on your security clearance and your need to know. It is absolutely forbidden to take any personal electronics (eg, phone, camera) into a SCIF. Violation of a SCIF's security is usually dealt with by loss of your security clearance and, I've heard, being arrested for a felony.
Those Republican hooligans flagrantly violated that SCIF by forcing entry into it when they were not authorized entry and by bringing in and using their personal phones to send messages and pictures out from the SCIF. Their assault on national security resulted in extra hours of delay so that the SCIF could be swept for bugs and any other kinds of listening devices.
LOCK THEM UP!!!

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Message 20 of 123 (865493)
10-25-2019 9:21 PM
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10-25-2019 7:34 PM


the other republicans are idiots. There are republicans on the three committees holding the hearings, they can tell the other republicans what's going on if they wish to.
Not only that, it's not the committees that are going to impeach Trump. That's going to happen in a vote by the entire House. After a period of debate and questioning.
Those Republicans will have plenty of opportunity to demand to see evidence, question people's testimony, and point out any shenanigans when they are present for the floor debates.

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Message 21 of 123 (865494)
10-25-2019 11:20 PM
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10-25-2019 6:38 PM


It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump ...
Did you not read a word I and others wrote? Authorized senior Republicans were there!
Where do you get this kind of crap?
Are you really so desperate to defend Trump that you can ignore these facts?
I refuse to believe you are so blind/stupid/dumb as to believe this conspiracy crap.
I know your head is smarter than this. Why are you insisting on this shit?

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 22 of 123 (865495)
10-25-2019 11:24 PM


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Message 23 of 123 (865497)
10-26-2019 1:50 AM
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10-25-2019 6:38 PM


quote:
It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump and that's why the other Republicans wanted in.
There is no way you can honestly believe that.

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Faith 
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Message 24 of 123 (865498)
10-26-2019 3:06 AM
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10-25-2019 11:20 PM


Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
Did you not read a word I and others wrote? Authorized senior Republicans were there!
Where do you get this kind of crap?
Are you really so desperate to defend Trump that you can ignore these facts?
I refuse to believe you are so blind/stupid/dumb as to believe this conspiracy crap.
I know your head is smarter than this. Why are you insisting on this shit?
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The thing is, the Republicans who "invaded" the meeting are highly authoritative and credible and they say something different. They call it a Star Chamber hearing on impeachment and that being the case the entire House membership should be present and have the right to cross examine witnesses and so on. When you all say one thing according to the people in the closed meeting, which is being led by the despicable liar Schiff, and the rest of the House say something else, I'm going with the rest of the House.
I do have to correct one thing. According to the following report there have been lots of leaks of the usual kind meant to denigrate Trump by hook or by crook.
Oh and they also make it clear how the media twists everything, absolutely everything. The stories of them "storming" the meeting are Leftist spin. They walked in and sat down. Some mistakenly had their phones on them but yielded them when asked. The News Media are despicable propagandists.
Oh and the meeting was not classified, as Schiff confirmed.
The country is polarized, severely divided, there aren't just different opinions on everything, there are drastically irreconcilable differences fueled by the Left's lies, distortions, fake news, censorship of the other side and so on.
Oh and I'm very glad there are a couple of worthy Republicans in the meeting, but that wasn't enough for those barred from it.
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Message 25 of 123 (865500)
10-26-2019 3:23 AM
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10-26-2019 3:06 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
quote:
The thing is, the Republicans who "invaded" the meeting are highly authoritative and credible and they say something different.
In other words people you call highly authoritative and credible should be believed over the truth ?
The security concerns seem to be legitimate and so do the procedures. You yourself have claimed that Ratcliffe ‘demolished Taylor’s testimony against Trump - and he was one of the Republican representatives.
So, what is the justification for their claims?
quote:
When you all say one thing according to the people in the closed meeting, which is being led by the despicable liar Schiff, and the rest of the House say something else, I'm going with the rest of the House.
Thanks for reminding me you want Schiff jailed on groundless charges. You have no real interest in justice, simply in protecting those on your side and jailing opponents.
And I note that when you say the rest of the House you present no evidence that the rest of the House says any such thing. Only the people illegally trying to disrupt a legitimate investigation, flouting security rules and perhaps their allies say such a thing.
But it is not simply a matter of picking sides. The evidence matters. And there is no evidence justifying their claims. You pick the side you like. I’ll follow the evidence. Because I care about the truth and you don’t.

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AZPaul3
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Message 26 of 123 (865501)
10-26-2019 3:26 AM
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10-26-2019 3:06 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
You just keep drinking the kool aid, Love.
and the rest of the House say something else,
That "rest of the House" is limited to a couple dozen disgruntled butt-hurt Republican Trump sycophants stage managed by the White House. They lied about their motives and their representation. The remaining 410 members of the House, that actually represent over 300 million Americans, don't want anything to do with them.

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Faith 
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Message 27 of 123 (865503)
10-26-2019 3:30 AM
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10-26-2019 3:26 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
Thank you for your opinion which isn't worth anything in this kind of discussion.

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AZPaul3
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Message 28 of 123 (865504)
10-26-2019 3:41 AM
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10-26-2019 3:30 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
I haven't been giving any opinions. Just relaying facts.
I know when you get emotional it is difficult for you to tell the difference but there is a difference.
Like when you crown 24 White House puppets as the "rest of the House" when in fact the other 411 members, the real rest of the House, disagree.

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Faith 
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Message 29 of 123 (865505)
10-26-2019 3:46 AM
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10-26-2019 3:41 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
You didn't prove it, did you? It's just your assertion.
But I do have to admit I'm predisposed against everything Leftist. Pelosi comes out and says something about how Trump is in a bad place, just a few words with nothing to back them up and no content, but enough to make it sound like she's got something on Trump which never ever turns out to be true, and all the rest of the evil Left says similar things day in and day out, every hour and minute of every day so you try to stick a few "facts" into this poisonous caldron and want me to forget the vile nature of the whole brew?
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AZPaul3
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Message 30 of 123 (865506)
10-26-2019 3:51 AM
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10-26-2019 3:46 AM


Re: Yes they are calling it a Star Chamber
You do know the invading hoard was all of 24 Republicans?
You do know how many members comprise the House of Representatives?
How do you label these facts as assertions?

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