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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
OK you asked for a specific rule the closed-door meeting is breaking, after admitting there is no rule regarding impeachment that they are following, thank you again, and since dwise got himself suspended for having one of his famous conniption fits over my not givine a specific rule in answer to your request for one -- SO here's the rule they are breaking:
The Constitution assigns impeachment to the House of Representatives. Not to SOME of the House of Representatives but ALL of the House of Representatives. Since just a small group of House reps are having their impeachment inquiry behind closed doors I believe this is a violation of a Constitutional directive, and that those House members who sat in on it earlier were within their rights to do so. Is that a good enough Rule for you? This excuse that there might be classified information in what they are doing is inadmissible. You have the open House meeting since this is an impeachment inquiry and if classified material comes up in the process of conducting it, then you do not admit it in public but very clearly and according to the rules make provision for it to be revealed to the right people at the right time without interrupting the proceedings attended by the whole House. That's MY suggestion of course but the point is that there must be rules for such contingencies that come up in the process of a whole House inquiry without interrupting it. This little meeting is called an impeachment inquiry. It MUST be a violation of the Constitutional assignment of impeachment to the House. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I can't be any more specific than that the Constitution says it is the House that does the impeaching. There are other nonspecific rules tht aren't being followed, such as giving due process and other rights to the defendant. As I understand it both the Nixon and the Clinton impeachments were very careful to be sure the President had all the usual rights of challenging witnesses, proposing other witnesses, and a lot more I can't keep in mind, all of which are far from this House's proceedings.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Uh huh, and they are going to extend this "interview" phase as long as they can and actually they'll never have a vote to impeach because there will never be anything to impeach him on, but meanwhile this inquiry leaving out the majority of the House is a politically motivated violation of decency if nothing specific though probably of worse only I just am not up on it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nonsense, it's all made up and "abuse of power" is way too nebulous a concept to justify impeachment. Oh not that they will let that stop them. As a matter of fact, though, it's the Democrats who have been abusing power in their relentless pursuit of bringing down Trump, which includes criminal activity.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Public evidence NONsense. Abuse of power is mostly a matter of interpretation and I know how the Left loves to "interpret" what Trump does. If you compared him with Obama I bet Obama's abuses of power far outstrip Trump's though I wouldn't expect you to have an unbiased interpretation. AND again it's the Democrats who have been abusing power against Trump for three years now.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They didn't keep loudly threatening Obama with impeachment for three years before it though, all making the headlines, and they didn't have a three year bogus investigation against Obama, with daily headlines claiming they "got him," that ended up finding nothing, and they didn't keep announcing that they were going to impeach him before they had this supposed closed door meeting, which apparently wasn't even publicly known. In the case of Trump this closed door meeting is going on at the time they should be having public hearings on impeachment. And now I see that apparently the Republican sit-n may have had an effect because they are in fact anncouncing an impeachment vote for Thursday allowing for an actual trial with due process for the President's side. Finally.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Funny those Congressmen thought something corrupt was going on in that closed door meeting. I didn't make it up.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well, that was predictable.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Trump has done nothing, and on the phone call to the Ukraine he committee no offense whatever. If he had done even one thing he is accused of he would have long since been impeached. It's all a huge hallucination on the part of the Left.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Taylor is a leftist anti Trump schemer who was involved with Soros and Hunter Biden in somethin I didn't hear very clearly on Limbaugh this morning, as I just reported on the other thread in answer to you. All this is more leftist shenanigans all a charade -- "shock and bewilderment" indeed -- to sound like Trump did something wrong when all the wrongdoing is on the left. According to many I've heard over the last few days, Ratcliffe shredded Taylor's "testimony" in that closed-door meeting but Schiff won't release the transcript.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Don't confuse "Republicans" with me please, I don't claim to get it all straight, I'm just trying to put up what little I'm able to catch. I'm sure Ratcliffe dealt with the facts but we don't have the transcript of that cross examination thanks to the liar Schiff.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Faith writes: I'm sure Ratcliffe dealt with the facts but we don't have the transcript of that cross examination thanks to the liar Schiff. The real question is if you will give Trump a pass even if all of these charges are corroborated. Nothing the Left has been putting its hopes on has panned out. The Mueller Report came up with nothing so now they are looking for anything at all they can turn into an impeachable offense. Oh they may succeed, I don't know, but so far Trump appears to be innocent of everything they throw at him. Much to their chagrin.
Do you think a president should be removed from office if they use tax payer dollars to get personal benefits from a foreign power? He didn't. It was not Trump but Joe Biden who used taxpayer money to get personal benefits from a foreign power. and yes of course I find this reprehensible. This is contested so fine, let the truth come out about Biden and everybody. But Trump did no such thing. There was no quid pro quo at all, period, but the only hint that there might have been is not in relation to getting information about Biden, which idea is utterly ridiculous anyway since Biden was not his opponent for the next election and is not likely to be, but about the investigation into the 2016 election, which was underway through Barr and Durham and Horowitz, and may they soon get out their findings. It is perfectly accept able common practice to withhold aid for help in such an investigation, in which it is known that the foreign power was involved, but the fact is that aid was not withheld as the Ukrainian leader himself said, and we know the aid was received.
If Hillary had withheld aid from Ukraine to get dirt on Republican opponents, would you be calling for her to be removed from office? She did worse. She paid for a lying dossier of dirt on Trump that came from Russia though it was a Brit who sold it to her. Ukraine supported her in the election against Trump and according to Politico (see Message 3099 on the Right Side of the News thread) it had an effect on the election too. I'm defending Trump because I know he's innocent and that he's been the target of a witch hunt by the Democrats since before he got into office. They've found nothing, they've invented reams of accusations but found nothing that deserves impeachment or criminal charges. You call make lists and lists of his supposed crimes and misdemeanors but none of them even comes close to the list of actual felonies Starr came up with against Clinton. It's all wishful thinking. You are asking me what I think of made-up allegations that have no legal standing at all. Maybe they will eventually but they don't now, they are all the wishful thinking of the Democrats who hate Trump and are still smarting from Hillary's loss of the election to him. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What if it pans out this time? You guys are so funny. For years you are sure sure sure you've "got 'im" and you never do, but "what about this time?" Ha ha.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What they have on Trump is trivial and not impeachable, not that they can't somehow impeach him anyway. I'm not whitewashing at all, I'm convinced he's innocent.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1464 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You list stuff you think he did that's deserving of some kind of punishment and you ask me if I think it is or not. I have no idea, but nothing has ever stuck that's been tried so I suspect this won't stick either. He's not guilty of wrongdoing no matter what you think about this or that he's done. It's all stuff you dreamed up the way the Left is incessantly dreaming up stuff against Trump. There is no shortage of Leftist courts and experts of all sorts, I'll wait and see how it all turns out in the end.
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