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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Uh huh, and they are going to extend this "interview" phase as long as they can and actually they'll never have a vote to impeach because there will never be anything to impeach him on, but meanwhile this inquiry leaving out the majority of the House is a politically motivated violation of decency if nothing specific though probably of worse only I just am not up on it. And so yet again even after you have been shown to once again be totally wrong you just continue to whine. But I will admit hearing the word decency in anything related to il Donald certainly is worth a laugh.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17826 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: They’ve already got evidence of his abuse of power and the testimony is providing further corroborating evidence. As you would know if you were following the story.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nonsense, it's all made up and "abuse of power" is way too nebulous a concept to justify impeachment. Oh not that they will let that stop them. As a matter of fact, though, it's the Democrats who have been abusing power in their relentless pursuit of bringing down Trump, which includes criminal activity.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17826 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: There’s enough public evidence that you have no excuse.
quote: Using state power for personal political interest is a pretty clear example of abuse of power, and abuse of power is grounds for impeachment.
quote: This is just the assertions of the Right wing hate machine, dedicated to defending Trump from investigation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Public evidence NONsense. Abuse of power is mostly a matter of interpretation and I know how the Left loves to "interpret" what Trump does. If you compared him with Obama I bet Obama's abuses of power far outstrip Trump's though I wouldn't expect you to have an unbiased interpretation. AND again it's the Democrats who have been abusing power against Trump for three years now.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17826 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: The transcript of the telephone conversation exists, has been made public, is not made up and has pretty clear evidence.
quote: By which you mean that the Left aren’t fanatical Trump supporters, making up excuses - or just plain discounting - Trump’s misdeeds.
quote: My interpretation would doubtless be far less biased than yours.
quote: Let us note that you offer no evidence of this - and let us also note that for much of that time the Republicans controlled both Houses of Congress.
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Taq Member Posts: 10072 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Faith writes: Abuse of power is mostly a matter of interpretation and I know how the Left loves to "interpret" what Trump does. Why has Trump continually claimed that he didn't collude with Russia as Russia interfered in our elections? If there is nothing wrong with it, why did they fight those charges? With Ukraine, Trump did the very thing he claimed he didn't do with Russia. Trump asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on his political rivals which is interfering in our elections.
AND again it's the Democrats who have been abusing power against Trump for three years now. What power have they been abusing?
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Taq Member Posts: 10072 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: There are other nonspecific rules tht aren't being followed, such as giving due process and other rights to the defendant. Where in due process does the suspect get to be present during the police investigation or the grand jury testimony?
As I understand it both the Nixon and the Clinton impeachments were very careful to be sure the President had all the usual rights of challenging witnesses, proposing other witnesses, and a lot more I can't keep in mind, all of which are far from this House's proceedings. Trump will have those same privileges when there is a trial in the Senate. I strongly encourage you to learn how our justice system works.
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Taq Member Posts: 10072 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: Uh huh, and they are going to extend this "interview" phase as long as they can and actually they'll never have a vote to impeach because there will never be anything to impeach him on, but meanwhile this inquiry leaving out the majority of the House is a politically motivated violation of decency if nothing specific though probably of worse only I just am not up on it. You just described the Benghazi hearings. This investigation went on for years, with a lot of testimony behind closed doors. This was run by Republicans who were hoping to fish out impeachable offenses against Obama, but they didn't impeach and never filed a single referral for indictment. In fact, the House rules being used by Democrats right now were crafted by Republicans in their failed impeachment campaign against Obama. The hypocrisy is overpowering.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They didn't keep loudly threatening Obama with impeachment for three years before it though, all making the headlines, and they didn't have a three year bogus investigation against Obama, with daily headlines claiming they "got him," that ended up finding nothing, and they didn't keep announcing that they were going to impeach him before they had this supposed closed door meeting, which apparently wasn't even publicly known. In the case of Trump this closed door meeting is going on at the time they should be having public hearings on impeachment. And now I see that apparently the Republican sit-n may have had an effect because they are in fact anncouncing an impeachment vote for Thursday allowing for an actual trial with due process for the President's side. Finally.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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before they had this supposed closed door meeting, which apparently wasn't even publicly known
why would it need to be publicly known? it was a closed door hearing, those who needed to know about it knew about it.
And now I see that apparently the Republican sit-n may have had an effect because they are in fact anncouncing an impeachment vote for Thursday allowing for an actual trial with due process for the President's side. Finally.
how many times do you have to be reminded that the trial happens in the senate. The Democrats in the house can do whatever they want, once it gets to the senate the republicans are in control of the process. Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Funny those Congressmen thought something corrupt was going on in that closed door meeting. I didn't make it up.
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Taq Member Posts: 10072 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: They didn't keep loudly threatening Obama with impeachment for three years before it though, all making the headlines, and they didn't have a three year bogus investigation against Obama, with daily headlines claiming they "got him," that ended up finding nothing, and they didn't keep announcing that they were going to impeach him before they had this supposed closed door meeting, which apparently wasn't even publicly known. You just described the Benghazi hearings.
In the case of Trump this closed door meeting is going on at the time they should be having public hearings on impeachment. Why?
And now I see that apparently the Republican sit-n may have had an effect because they are in fact anncouncing an impeachment vote for Thursday allowing for an actual trial with due process for the President's side. Finally. Democrats had been planning this from the start. There was always going to be public testimony prior to an impeachment vote. There will also be a trial in the Senate if impeachment passes the House, and in that trial the President will be allowed to cross-examine and face his accusers. That's due process.
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Taq Member Posts: 10072 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Faith writes: Funny those Congressmen thought something corrupt was going on in that closed door meeting. 12 of those Congressmen were already allowed to be in those hearings, so why did they have to make a big show of it? There were more than 40 Republicans allowed in those hearings, and they had equal time to question witnesses. Democrats are following the rules the Republicans put in place in 2015.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Funny those Congressmen thought something corrupt was going on in that closed door meeting. It's not too funny to find truly dumb as a red brick idiots think things are corrupt when it is really all going according to the very rules their party put in place. Fools and ignoramus often act that way.
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