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Faith 
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Message 3226 of 5796 (865640)
10-28-2019 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3224 by Percy
10-28-2019 2:24 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Of course it's Trump being Trump, a very insecure man who feels the constant need to denigrate others and engage in exaggerated braggadocio.
That is ridiculous. Trump "insecure?" No wonder the Left gets everything wrong. If Trump were insecure he'd long since have left office under the incessant abuse of the Left. But nothing fazes the man, he sounds as upbeat and certain in his speeches as he always did. I keep being impressed when I hear even a small portion of one of his speeches how clear he is about what his mission is as President, how he's never left his platform.
No, his tweets are just answers to the accusations. It must take a toll on him in some ways to be so constantly attacked, but mostly I think he may even enjoy the battle. He comes back against the endless abuses of the Left because they are wrong not because he is insecure. The word makes me laugh. The Left can't get anything right. Trump's personality throws them completely.
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DrJones*
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Message 3227 of 5796 (865642)
10-28-2019 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3226 by Faith
10-28-2019 4:40 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
If Trump were insecure he'd long since have left office under the incessant abuse of the Left
yeah the guy who lied about the size of the crowd at his inauguration is totally secure. The guy who can never admit he's wrong (see how he still claims the central park five are guilty) is secure. The guy who claims he knows more than the generals/experts/etc. is secure.
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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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jar
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Message 3228 of 5796 (865643)
10-28-2019 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 3227 by DrJones*
10-28-2019 5:01 PM


il Donald is simply a boor.
The guy that brags about never having resorted to "personal" bankruptcy is secure.

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Taq
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Message 3229 of 5796 (865645)
10-28-2019 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 3199 by Faith
10-25-2019 4:00 PM


Re: Civil Debate
Faith writes:
I can hardly believe what you all do to the truth. I post a piece by Politico and Percy denies what it actually says. I can hardly believe the deviousness . And yet it seems to be unconscious deviousness, like you all have no idea what is really going on, what you are really doing. You don't seem to have any awareness of the Left's attempts to disenfranchise the Right. When you hear of them you discount them. It is hard to believe how much clever rhetoric by the Left goes on in defense of outright criminality. Hillary committed actual crimes for instance that are truly Russian Collusion and Obtrustion of Jusice, but the Left turns all their own crimes against Trump and the Right and you all just accept the crazy rationalizations as if they were truth. It was Hillary and her campaign that plotted to bring down Trump, paying for a false "dossier" concocted to destroy Trump's reputation, all foul lies, but that gets ignored completely and rationalized away while a huge lying effort is mounted to make it seem that Trump was the one committing the campaign fraud that was the actual doings of the Left. The whole Mueller investigation was at least in the service of covering up Clinton's crimes along with smearing Trump. And you all don't see it. Amazing.
By their fruits . . .

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Faith 
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Message 3230 of 5796 (865654)
10-28-2019 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3227 by DrJones*
10-28-2019 5:01 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
You don't quote anything so who knows if anything you are saying holds water. However, misestimating the size of the crowd might show more of a habit of overestimating his influence than insecurity, and getting things wrong has nothing to do with insecurity. You guys just don't get Trump, and that gives him an edge. In fact I probably shouldn't try to set you straight or the Left might get smart and figure out how to beat him. Naa, that isn't going to happen.
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Taq
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Message 3231 of 5796 (865659)
10-28-2019 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 3230 by Faith
10-28-2019 6:59 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes:
You guys just don't get Trump, and that gives him an edge.
We understand him really, really well. Many of us have been watching the Cult of Republicanism grow for many years, starting with talk radio back in the 80's and its fruition at Fox News. It is political tribalism, and it is amazing to watch.

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Faith 
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From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 3232 of 5796 (865662)
10-28-2019 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3231 by Taq
10-28-2019 7:34 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Funny how you all have been keeping up with it and don't get it at ALL. For one thing Trump isn't anything WE could have predicted. He's a complete original, a true outsider, and gives us headaches even as he shows himself to be exactly what the country needs.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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DrJones*
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Message 3233 of 5796 (865664)
10-28-2019 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 3230 by Faith
10-28-2019 6:59 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
You don't quote anything so who knows if anything you are saying holds water.
do you really need a quote to remember that he lied about the size of his crowd repeatedly?
getting things wrong has nothing to do with insecurity
correct, it's the refusal to admit wrongness that is a sign of insecurity.
do really think that any of these following statements are true?
Edited by Admin, : Replace YouTube link with the video itself.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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dwise1
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Message 3234 of 5796 (865667)
10-28-2019 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 3232 by Faith
10-28-2019 7:40 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Funny how you all have been keeping up with it and don't get it at ALL. For one thing Trump isn't anything WE could have predicted. He's a complete original, a true outsider, and gives us headaches even as he shows himself to be exactly what the country needs.
Trump is a grifter, a con-man, a salesman. Nothing at all original about him; we've had snake-oil salesmen for too many decades for you to be able to count.
My father told me about salesmen. Many job interviews for a salesman is to hand him a pencil and tell him to sell that pencil to the interviewer. It has nothing to do with the actual worth of the product, but rather how you can present it.
I distinctly remember an interview during the 2016 campaign with a neophyte Trump supporter. She had approached him with her sincere concerns about the ideas that he was presenting. He assured her that he had no intention of ever enacting any of those things he was promising, but rather he was just telling the crowd what it wanted to hear. And the really weird part is that that is what convinced her to support him.
... he shows himself to be exactly what the country needs.
What the country needs is proper leadership. I have had 35 years of training in what leadership actually is (the military does that, you should know). Trump doesn't have the first clue about leadership.

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Faith 
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Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 3235 of 5796 (865670)
10-29-2019 2:00 AM
Reply to: Message 3234 by dwise1
10-28-2019 8:27 PM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
I distinctly remember an interview during the 2016 campaign with a neophyte Trump supporter. She had approached him with her sincere concerns about the ideas that he was presenting. He assured her that he had no intention of ever enacting any of those things he was promising, but rather he was just telling the crowd what it wanted to hear. And the really weird part is that that is what convinced her to support him.
I suspect that what you "distinctly remember" is bogus. For an accusation like this you need to produce clear evidence.
I can't answer all your accusations, such as you listed in Message 79 and I won't try. Terrified I am not. I simply have to wait until people who know more than I do answer them. Every day besides the incessant lying leftist smear in the media I hear conservatives say Trump has done absolutely nothing criminal or impeachable and I figure they know what they are talking about because they research this stuff. I can answer a few accusations here and there, not that it gets me anywhere at EvC except being called a liar and worse from such as you, but otherwise you can write a whole book of accusations and I can't answer them. Most of them are completely made up, just stuff you don't like maybe, but some are matters of law or precedent of some sort and I don't have that knowledge, but others on my side do.
May all the truth come out. All of it. We know Trump is not guilty of the wrongdoings imputed to him, we know because we know many of his words are misinterpreted, and because we know how to judge character.
Oh and we also know it because the Mueller report exonerated him, and nobody has made anything of the Obstruction of Justice hallucinations, and above all because if he'd done even one impeachable thing they wouldn't be dillydallying as they have been, he'd have been impeached long ago.
Before you answer, and I recommend that you don't bother, you shoud probably take a break and cool off.
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dwise1
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Message 3236 of 5796 (865671)
10-29-2019 2:19 AM
Reply to: Message 3235 by Faith
10-29-2019 2:00 AM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
I suspect that what you "distinctly remember" is bogus. For an accusation like this you need to produce clear evidence.
It's not an accusation, but rather just a report of what I had seen. I reported what I had seen as exactly as I could.
It's OK. You can trust what I say. I have no reason to lye, because I am not a Creationist.
I can't answer all your accusations and I won't try.
What accusations? There were none in that message.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Terrified I am not.
What accusations? That has absolutely nothing to do with that message.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
... mindless blather, mindless blather, mindless blather ...
What ???
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Really. Have you gone completely brain-dead?
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

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Faith 
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Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 3237 of 5796 (865672)
10-29-2019 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 3236 by dwise1
10-29-2019 2:19 AM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
No you cannot get away with not giving evidence of such an accusation that he told that girl he didn't intend to fulfill his promises.
Besides, it's wrong because he's been knocking himself out to fulfill his promises and has fulfilled many of them.
AbE: I did recommend that you take a break and cool down. You have a terrible time understanding English (the term "accusation" is very clear and fits your lists) and you sound ike you are on the verge of a stroke. Do cool down.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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dwise1
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Message 3238 of 5796 (865674)
10-29-2019 2:32 AM
Reply to: Message 3237 by Faith
10-29-2019 2:22 AM


Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!
Nothing of what you have posted has anything whatsoever to do with any message that you are alledgedly "replying to".
Stop spewing your random garbage!
(the term "accusation" is very clear and fits your lists)
WHAT LISTS?????? I can see no list in the message that you claim to be responding to!
Typical FUCKING lyar!

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Message 3239 of 5796 (865675)
10-29-2019 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 3238 by dwise1
10-29-2019 2:32 AM


Slipping into the asshole mode again?
Why?
You do so many profoundly good messages, and then this happens.
Be right, but be right nice.
Adminnemooseus

Or something like that.

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dwise1
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Message 3240 of 5796 (865677)
10-29-2019 3:05 AM
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10-29-2019 2:40 AM


Re: Slipping into the asshole mode again?
She needs to reply to the actual messages that she's claiming to be replying to.
When she throws in unrelated stuff like that, who the hell is ever supposed to figure out what the fuck she's talking about.
She needs to reply to the actual messages that she's claiming to be replying to.

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