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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wow the usual namecalling and character assassination without even one hint of an example of what on earth is meant by "hate radio." Typical. The Lleft is despicable.
Oh and this is interesting: the word "Lleft" is now being censored by Percy. It's a straightforward term of description but now it's "hate speech" I guess. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1431 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Wow the usual namecalling and character assassination without even one hint of an example of what on earth is meant by "hate radio." Typical. The Lleft is despicable. Oh and this is interesting: the word "Lleft" is now being censored by Percy. It's a straightforward term of description but now it's "hate speech" I guess. It is the way you use it. Your words say that you seem to think every person to the left of you is despicable, ignorant, close-minded with a conspiracy to hide the TRVTH and need to open their eyes. It seems there are no moderates in your world, only right wing thinkers and evil leftists.
quote: Do you get angry responses? That's because hate speech does that. You've been listening to Limbaugh so long you think it's normal.
Message 3252: But Limbaugh this morning described a whole complicated involvement I probably can't remember very well between this guy Taylor who testified in the closed door meeting, {also described as having been shredded by Ratcliffe though Schiff refuses to make that transcript public}_ and Hunter Biden and George Soros against Trump. All I can say is May the truth ALL come out, please God. You won't get it from Limbaugh. What you describe is a conspiracy theory made of hot air and hope, not facts. Spiced with hate talk, like
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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marc9000 writes: Percy writes:
Only? Okay, guess we have to leave that there. marc9000 writes: Trump is only one man, the fountain of hate from Democrats and their lapdogs in the news media is much bigger. The news media only reports and comments on what Trump says and does, like this crude tweet from earlier this month: You missed the irony. You said the fountain of hate from the Democrats and the media is greater than the incivility exhibited by Trump, and I answered that they're mostly only printing or broadcasting what Trump says, and provided the example of a crude and uncivil Trump tweet that was reported in the media. No Democrat in Congress or anyone in the news media is being crude or uncivil on anywhere near the scale of Trump. Trump is the master of crudeness and incivility and no one sees any point in getting down in the mud with the master. As they say, you only get muddy and the pig likes it. Tell ya what, we'll just go one for one. My sources are Trump and Fox News, your sources are the entire Congress and the mainstream news media , and we'll go insult for insult. I'll cite or quote a Trump insult, then you'll cite or quote one from Congress or the mainstream news media. We'll see who runs out first. I'll start (this one includes the irony of Trump not understanding the difference between a hyphen and an apostrophe):
But really, if Trump's "crude" tweets and language are a big part of the opposition to him,... They are not. They're just one of the many measures of Trump's unfitness for high office, or any office at all, including dog catcher.
Crudeness and bluntness IS politics today Why is there so much crudeness and bluntness at the top in politics today and not four years ago when Obama was president, or before him Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter or Ford?
If Zucker's personal feelings about Trump are influencing the objectivity and accuracy of CNN reporting then you should call those stories to our attention. It's easy to say (paraphrasing), "CNN is biased and it comes from the top," but it's a lot harder to show it. But I did show it, in Message 3213. Was only one reference not enough? But you didn't show it. You didn't cite a single CNN article that you felt showed bias. You just referred to someone describing Project Veritas's video.
You're actually referring to Trump lawyer Charles Harder's letter to CNN. It's not a lawsuit, it's just a letter full of accusations and threats. Accusations and threats that are verifiable and proven. Yes. That Harder made those threats can be verified and proven. What can't be verified and proven are the accusations Harder made. If you think they can then go ahead and try.
David Muir, Cecilia Vega and Jonathon Karl are a left wing activist group. I don't know who any of these people are - I'll have to look them up.
They use deceptively edited videos and commentary, and omission of much relevant news, to make it clear they're a Democrat disinformation outfit. I see that David Muir is an anchor for ABC World News Tonight. Here's a recent news story he broadcast. Please tell us the deceptive edits, commentary and omissions:
If you really believe that CNN President Zucker is keeping CNN's primary focus on impeachment to an inappropriate degree then you should try to show it. I did. I'm too busy these days to chase goalposts. You constructed the goalposts yourself in the form of unsubstantiated claims. You should substantiate them or drop them.
At present all the stories at the top of the page [for CNN] are about the raid that killed Baghdadi, even the one that touches on impeachment, which is an analysis piece. That article list will change as we move through the news cycle. Keep your eye on it and let us know when it steps over the line. If I can find the time,... Ah, time enough to make unsupported accusations, but not enough time to back them up. Let's take a look at what's at the top of the news for CNN right now. It's organized a little differently this time with only a couple top stories because the first one is a "breaking news" story with four links to older but related stories beneath it, then other stories below that. Here's my summary of the top of CNN's page right now:
If you think this is focused on impeachment to an inappropriate degree then please explain how. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
As an addendum, here's a bar graph showing the number of Trump tweets for each week of his presidency. It's taken from How Trump Reshaped the Presidency in Over 11,000 Tweets. The orange portion of the bars indicate attacks or insults:
--Percy
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
This secular humanist whom I have been listening to lately has a podcast that talks about Trump. 433: Should it worry me that the government is demonizing secular people? It's a really good civil debate.
quote: Campolo is a very thoughtful commentator. And ringo, just so you know, I have found your "honest apologist". Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Are you complaining about Trump's tweets? Do you have any idea why he tweets? Are you at all aware of the absolutely unprecedented endless attacks he's had to endure since even before he took office? Some of us wish he'd tone down the tweets or stop making so many of them but in the end we don't really object because he's answering his attackers. Of course you make out that he's the one on the attack, of course. I think that's one of the Rules for Radicals, you smear your victim with your own offenses. Anyway if he didn't tweet his enemies would just get away with it completely. At least this way like it or not there are answers from him out there.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: They aren’t exactly presidential, and do a lot to damage the image of the USA.
quote: Yes, he’s petty and vindictive. Every time somebody says or does something he doesn’t like he has to trash them on Twitter.
quote: It’s no worse - and more merited - than the stuff Obama had to endure. Even if you exclude some of the batshit crazy stuff promoted by InfoWars and the like.
quote: That’s because he is. Childish lashing out is not a defence.
quote: Is that where you got it from? It’s pretty much SOP with you.
quote: You can’t call them answers. And why do people need to be trashed just for disagreeing with Trump’s claims ? Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5949 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
quote: Until recently, our fears of encroaching theocracy came from fundamentalists and Christian Reconstructionists (a movement declared dead, but not before its seeds had already spread), but now it appears that the danger comes from conservative Catholics. William Barr is a conservative Catholic as is Mike Pompeo. We get the same theocratic rhetoric from both of them. Brett Kavanaugh is also Catholic with a Catholic education (Jesuit prep school) and shows signs of supporting conservative Catholic ideas. Just enjoying the irony that Faith is so strongly supportive of conservative Catholic agendas.Honor, Courage, Commitment (US Navy) A Christian once asked what I as an atheist believed in. My spontaneous and totally honest answer was sounded corny, but it was true: "Truth, Justice, and the American Way." That's still my answer today. GOP Values: Hypocrisy, Corruption, Greed, Lying, Cheating, Voter Suppression, Election Fraud, Conspiring with the Enemy " ... how hard can that be, to say that Nazis are bad?!"(Barack Obama) "How are we still fighting Nazis today?"(Daisy Johnson, S5E15) "Nance's Law: Coincidence takes a lot of planning."(Malcolm Nance) It is a well-known fact that reality has a definite liberal bias.(Steven Colbert on NPR)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not Presdiential no doubt, but that's another thing we like about him, he's not a politician, he doesn't care about looking Presidential, he's just himself.
Damage the imge of the USA? Actually I think Obama did that so successfully we may never recover from it. Trump at least loves this country and wants to serve us, We the People, not the globalists at our expense. Obama did not have to endure a media that hated him and never said one good word for him and try to turn the public against him. Obama always had his very public adoring worshippers. But Trump's supporters are not given a voice in the media, and are called Deplorables and worse. Trump haters have absolutely no sense of reality. NO sense whatever. Thank you for your partisan response, it has been received and filed under Trump Hater.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Except when he’s making a feeble pretence at being Christian.And quite frankly I don’t see much to like in Trump’s self. quote: Obama enhanced the image of the US in many respective - and Trump hasn’t exactly reversed the bad points. On the other hand - well, ask the Kurds what THEY think of Trump. And that’s just a recent example.
quote: Apart from Fox News, Right wing talk radio and the likes of InfoWars.Did he go out and start trashing them on Twitter ? quote: Of course there are Right Wing media and the treatment of Trump is not that unfair. Trump brings it on himself.
quote: Thank you for proving yet again how deplorable you are.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The right wing media are not mainstream, you have to seek them out, but the media that's in our face every day is Lefffffftist. That's the media that bowed and scraped for Obama every day.
Fortunately neither Trump nor I care that you don't see anything to like in him.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: Except for Fox News. But, so what? Obama was a lot better at taking criticism than Trump. And Trump deserves a whole lot more than Obama did.
quote: I just wonder what you like about him. Is it the lying, the egotism the lechery, the hypocrisy ? I know the nationalism is a big hit with you.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Bring his arguments here, in your own words, and we'll be the judge.
And ringo, just so you know, I have found your "honest apologist".
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Because he has the mind of an eight-year-old?
Do you have any idea why he tweets? Faith writes:
You seem to be unaware of history.
Are you at all aware of the absolutely unprecedented endless attacks he's had to endure since even before he took office?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4443 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Damage the imge of the USA? Actually I think Obama did that so successfully we may never recover from it. Yep, he wore a tan suit once and the first lady wore a sleeveless dress once. Shocking!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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