Re: H8 radio is self selectively right wing to far [alt]right wing
Wow the usual namecalling and character assassination without even one hint of an example of what on earth is meant by "hate radio." Typical. The Lleft is despicable.
Oh and this is interesting: the word "Lleft" is now being censored by Percy. It's a straightforward term of description but now it's "hate speech" I guess.
Re: H8 radio is self selectively right wing to far [alt]right wing
Wow the usual namecalling and character assassination without even one hint of an example of what on earth is meant by "hate radio." Typical. The Lleft is despicable.
Oh and this is interesting: the word "Lleft" is now being censored by Percy. It's a straightforward term of description but now it's "hate speech" I guess.
It is the way you use it.
Your words say that you seem to think every person to the left of you is despicable, ignorant, close-minded with a conspiracy to hide the TRVTH and need to open their eyes. It seems there are no moderates in your world, only right wing thinkers and evil leftists.
Speech that is intended to offend, insult, intimidate, or threaten an individual or group based on a trait or attribute, such as sexual orientation, religion, color, gender, or disability.
What is Hate Speech
Hate speech is spoken words that are offensive, insulting, and/or threatening to an individual or group based on a particular attribute of that person or persons being targeted. Targeted attributes include such traits as ethnic background, sexual orientation, race, or disability, though there are other target attributes. In the U.S., another term for hate speech is fighting words, as such talk is likely to provoke an otherwise reasonable person into acting rashly against speaker doing the provoking.
Unfortunately, defending freedom of speech means defending any and all speech equally, even that which may be regarded as unbearably offensive. Examples of hate speech include name-calling and racial slurs, though occasionally symbols like the swastika and burning crosses are called into question as to whether or not they are truly examples of hate speech, or if they are nothing more than symbols that are given a negative connotation from the situation in which they are used.
Do you get angry responses? That's because hate speech does that. You've been listening to Limbaugh so long you think it's normal.
Message 3252: But Limbaugh this morning described a whole complicated involvement I probably can't remember very well between this guy Taylor who testified in the closed door meeting, {also described as having been shredded by Ratcliffe though Schiff refuses to make that transcript public}_ and Hunter Biden and George Soros against Trump.
All I can say is May the truth ALL come out, please God.
You won't get it from Limbaugh. What you describe is a conspiracy theory made of hot air and hope, not facts.
Spiced with hate talk, like
quote:Feminazi is a pejorative term for feminists, which was popularized by politically conservative American radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh.
Origin and usage
According to The Oxford Dictionary of American Political Slang, feminazi refers (pejoratively) to "a committed feminist or a strong-willed woman".[1] The term is a portmanteau of the nouns feminist and Nazi.[2] The American conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh, who popularized the term,[3][4] credited the university professor Thomas Hazlett with coining it.[5]
Limbaugh, who has been vocally critical of the feminist movement,[6] stated that the term feminazi refers to "radical feminists" whose goal is "to see that there are as many abortions as possible"[1][7] and a small group of "militants" whom he distinguishes from "well-intentioned but misguided people who call themselves 'feminists'".[6] However, the term came to be widely used for feminism as a whole.[8] The New York Times described it in 1994 as "one of [Limbaugh's] favorite epithets for supporters of women's rights".[9] Limbaugh has used it in reference to the Feminist Majority Foundation and the activists Gloria Steinem and Susan Sarandon, among others.[7] Steinem writes that "I've never met anyone who fits that description [of wanting as many abortions as possible], though [Limbaugh] lavishes it on me among many others".[10]
Limbaugh states that feminazis, as opposed to mainstream feminists, are those "who are happy about the large number of abortions we have" in the United States. The anti-violence educator Jackson Katz argues that "no such feminists exist", and that feminazi is a "clever term of propaganda" intended and used to "[bully] into complicit silence women who might otherwise challenge men's violence".[11] In his book Angry White Men, the sociologist Michael Kimmel says the term is used to attack feminist campaigns for equal pay and safety from rape and domestic violence by associating them with Nazi genocide.[4]
Trump is only one man, the fountain of hate from Democrats and their lapdogs in the news media is much bigger.
The news media only reports and comments on what Trump says and does, like this crude tweet from earlier this month:
Only? Okay, guess we have to leave that there.
You missed the irony. You said the fountain of hate from the Democrats and the media is greater than the incivility exhibited by Trump, and I answered that they're mostly only printing or broadcasting what Trump says, and provided the example of a crude and uncivil Trump tweet that was reported in the media.
No Democrat in Congress or anyone in the news media is being crude or uncivil on anywhere near the scale of Trump. Trump is the master of crudeness and incivility and no one sees any point in getting down in the mud with the master. As they say, you only get muddy and the pig likes it.
Tell ya what, we'll just go one for one. My sources are Trump and Fox News, your sources are the entire Congress and the mainstream news media , and we'll go insult for insult. I'll cite or quote a Trump insult, then you'll cite or quote one from Congress or the mainstream news media. We'll see who runs out first. I'll start (this one includes the irony of Trump not understanding the difference between a hyphen and an apostrophe):
But really, if Trump's "crude" tweets and language are a big part of the opposition to him,...
They are not. They're just one of the many measures of Trump's unfitness for high office, or any office at all, including dog catcher.
Crudeness and bluntness IS politics today
Why is there so much crudeness and bluntness at the top in politics today and not four years ago when Obama was president, or before him Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter or Ford?
If Zucker's personal feelings about Trump are influencing the objectivity and accuracy of CNN reporting then you should call those stories to our attention. It's easy to say (paraphrasing), "CNN is biased and it comes from the top," but it's a lot harder to show it.
But I did show it, in Message 3213. Was only one reference not enough?
But you didn't show it. You didn't cite a single CNN article that you felt showed bias. You just referred to someone describing Project Veritas's video.
You're actually referring to Trump lawyer Charles Harder's letter to CNN. It's not a lawsuit, it's just a letter full of accusations and threats.
Accusations and threats that are verifiable and proven.
Yes. That Harder made those threats can be verified and proven. What can't be verified and proven are the accusations Harder made. If you think they can then go ahead and try.
David Muir, Cecilia Vega and Jonathon Karl are a left wing activist group.
I don't know who any of these people are - I'll have to look them up.
They use deceptively edited videos and commentary, and omission of much relevant news, to make it clear they're a Democrat disinformation outfit.
I see that David Muir is an anchor for ABC World News Tonight. Here's a recent news story he broadcast. Please tell us the deceptive edits, commentary and omissions:
If you really believe that CNN President Zucker is keeping CNN's primary focus on impeachment to an inappropriate degree then you should try to show it.
I did. I'm too busy these days to chase goalposts.
You constructed the goalposts yourself in the form of unsubstantiated claims. You should substantiate them or drop them.
At present all the stories at the top of the page [for CNN] are about the raid that killed Baghdadi, even the one that touches on impeachment, which is an analysis piece. That article list will change as we move through the news cycle. Keep your eye on it and let us know when it steps over the line.
If I can find the time,...
Ah, time enough to make unsupported accusations, but not enough time to back them up. Let's take a look at what's at the top of the news for CNN right now. It's organized a little differently this time with only a couple top stories because the first one is a "breaking news" story with four links to older but related stories beneath it, then other stories below that. Here's my summary of the top of CNN's page right now:
As an addendum, here's a bar graph showing the number of Trump tweets for each week of his presidency. It's taken from How Trump Reshaped the Presidency in Over 11,000 Tweets. The orange portion of the bars indicate attacks or insults:
quote:Hey Bart, I listened to a speech by Attorney General William Barr at Notre Dame University, in which he denounced ‘militant secularists’ and said they were trying to destroy the ‘traditional moral order’. Does this worry you as much as it does me?
Bart Campolo sits down with John Wright to answer this question, and — spoiler — it’s a resounding ‘Yes.’ Not only did Barr set out to make the ludicrous claims about secularists that he did, but Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promoted his own speech on the United States State Department website with the headline, Being a Christian Leader. Bart sees this as a direct response to the fire under which Trump finds himself, a rallying of the base, and shares some thoughts about how secular people can articulate their own positive values in a powerful refutation of this demonization.
Campolo is a very thoughtful commentator. And ringo, just so you know, I have found your "honest apologist".
Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.
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Are you complaining about Trump's tweets? Do you have any idea why he tweets? Are you at all aware of the absolutely unprecedented endless attacks he's had to endure since even before he took office? Some of us wish he'd tone down the tweets or stop making so many of them but in the end we don't really object because he's answering his attackers. Of course you make out that he's the one on the attack, of course. I think that's one of the Rules for Radicals, you smear your victim with your own offenses. Anyway if he didn't tweet his enemies would just get away with it completely. At least this way like it or not there are answers from him out there.
They aren’t exactly presidential, and do a lot to damage the image of the USA.
quote:Do you have any idea why he tweets?
Yes, he’s petty and vindictive. Every time somebody says or does something he doesn’t like he has to trash them on Twitter.
quote:Are you at all aware of the absolutely unprecedented endless attacks he's had to endure since even before he took office?
It’s no worse - and more merited - than the stuff Obama had to endure. Even if you exclude some of the batshit crazy stuff promoted by InfoWars and the like.
quote:Of course you make out that he's the one on the attack, of course
That’s because he is. Childish lashing out is not a defence.
quote:I think that's one of the Rules for Radicals, you smear your victim with your own offenses.
Is that where you got it from? It’s pretty much SOP with you.
quote:Anyway if he didn't tweet his enemies would just get away with it completely. At least this way like it or not there are answers from him out there.
You can’t call them answers. And why do people need to be trashed just for disagreeing with Trump’s claims ?
quote:Hey Bart, I listened to a speech by Attorney General William Barr at Notre Dame University, in which he denounced ‘militant secularists’ and said they were trying to destroy the ‘traditional moral order’. Does this worry you as much as it does me? Bart Campolo sits down with John Wright to answer this question, and — spoiler — it’s a resounding ‘Yes.’ Not only did Barr set out to make the ludicrous claims about secularists that he did, but Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promoted his own speech on the United States State Department website with the headline, Being a Christian Leader. Bart sees this as a direct response to the fire under which Trump finds himself, a rallying of the base, and shares some thoughts about how secular people can articulate their own positive values in a powerful refutation of this demonization.
Until recently, our fears of encroaching theocracy came from fundamentalists and Christian Reconstructionists (a movement declared dead, but not before its seeds had already spread), but now it appears that the danger comes from conservative Catholics.
William Barr is a conservative Catholic as is Mike Pompeo. We get the same theocratic rhetoric from both of them. Brett Kavanaugh is also Catholic with a Catholic education (Jesuit prep school) and shows signs of supporting conservative Catholic ideas.
Just enjoying the irony that Faith is so strongly supportive of conservative Catholic agendas.
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Not Presdiential no doubt, but that's another thing we like about him, he's not a politician, he doesn't care about looking Presidential, he's just himself.
Damage the imge of the USA? Actually I think Obama did that so successfully we may never recover from it. Trump at least loves this country and wants to serve us, We the People, not the globalists at our expense.
Obama did not have to endure a media that hated him and never said one good word for him and try to turn the public against him. Obama always had his very public adoring worshippers. But Trump's supporters are not given a voice in the media, and are called Deplorables and worse. Trump haters have absolutely no sense of reality. NO sense whatever.
Thank you for your partisan response, it has been received and filed under Trump Hater.
quote:Not Presdiential no doubt, but that's another thing we like about him, he's not a politician, he doesn't care about looking Presidential, he's just himself
Except when he’s making a feeble pretence at being Christian. And quite frankly I don’t see much to like in Trump’s self.
quote:Damage the imge of the USA? Actually I think Obama did that so successfully we may never recover from it. Trump at least loves this country and wants to serve us, We the People, not the globalists at our expense
Obama enhanced the image of the US in many respective - and Trump hasn’t exactly reversed the bad points. On the other hand - well, ask the Kurds what THEY think of Trump. And that’s just a recent example.
quote:Obama did not have to endure a media that hated him and never said one good word for him and try to turn the public against him.
Apart from Fox News, Right wing talk radio and the likes of InfoWars. Did he go out and start trashing them on Twitter ?
quote:But Trump's supporters are not given a voice in the media, and are called Deplorables and worse. Trump haters have absolutely no sense of reality. NO sense whatever.
Of course there are Right Wing media and the treatment of Trump is not that unfair. Trump brings it on himself.
quote:Thank you for your partisan response, it has been received and filed under Trump Hater.
Thank you for proving yet again how deplorable you are.
The right wing media are not mainstream, you have to seek them out, but the media that's in our face every day is Lefffffftist. That's the media that bowed and scraped for Obama every day.
Fortunately neither Trump nor I care that you don't see anything to like in him.
Damage the imge of the USA? Actually I think Obama did that so successfully we may never recover from it.
Yep, he wore a tan suit once and the first lady wore a sleeveless dress once. Shocking!
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Okay, guess we have to leave that there.
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