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Topic: The Right Side of the News
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Taq
Member Posts: 10073 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 3093 of 5796 (865199)
10-21-2019 6:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 3071 by Faith
10-20-2019 11:13 PM
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Re: The Muller Witch Hunt Exposed
Faith writes: Trump has committed no crimes. You you going to stomp your feet and hold your breath like a little child? Simply repeating the same thing over and over is both desperate and childish.
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Re: The Muller Witch Hunt Exposed
Theodoric writes: Faith is dishonest. We will know them by their fruits. If atheists ever feel the need to discredit religion, then Faith's posts are some of the best material. Faith is perhaps our best asset because she shows the world the level of ignorance, blindness, and immorality that it takes to support Trump and some of the most vile policies conservatives are pushing.
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Taq
Member Posts: 10073 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 3229 of 5796 (865645)
10-28-2019 5:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 3199 by Faith
10-25-2019 4:00 PM
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Re: Civil Debate
Faith writes: I can hardly believe what you all do to the truth. I post a piece by Politico and Percy denies what it actually says. I can hardly believe the deviousness . And yet it seems to be unconscious deviousness, like you all have no idea what is really going on, what you are really doing. You don't seem to have any awareness of the Left's attempts to disenfranchise the Right. When you hear of them you discount them. It is hard to believe how much clever rhetoric by the Left goes on in defense of outright criminality. Hillary committed actual crimes for instance that are truly Russian Collusion and Obtrustion of Jusice, but the Left turns all their own crimes against Trump and the Right and you all just accept the crazy rationalizations as if they were truth. It was Hillary and her campaign that plotted to bring down Trump, paying for a false "dossier" concocted to destroy Trump's reputation, all foul lies, but that gets ignored completely and rationalized away while a huge lying effort is mounted to make it seem that Trump was the one committing the campaign fraud that was the actual doings of the Left. The whole Mueller investigation was at least in the service of covering up Clinton's crimes along with smearing Trump. And you all don't see it. Amazing. By their fruits . . .
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Taq
Member Posts: 10073 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 3231 of 5796 (865659)
10-28-2019 7:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 3230 by Faith
10-28-2019 6:59 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: You guys just don't get Trump, and that gives him an edge. We understand him really, really well. Many of us have been watching the Cult of Republicanism grow for many years, starting with talk radio back in the 80's and its fruition at Fox News. It is political tribalism, and it is amazing to watch.
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Taq
Member Posts: 10073 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 3245 of 5796 (865688)
10-29-2019 11:43 AM
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Reply to: Message 3232 by Faith
10-28-2019 7:40 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: Funny how you all have been keeping up with it and don't get it at ALL. For one thing Trump isn't anything WE could have predicted. Perhaps YOU couldn't have predicted it, but we have been watching it develop for years. Electing incompetent politicians who have nothing other than partisan bluster has been steadily increasing in Republican ranks. Ever heard of the Tea Party, now called the Freedom Caucus? Trump is a predictable extension of that movement. Is it any wonder that Trump first gained political notoriety for pushing Birtherism, the conspiracy theory born in the Tea Party? Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Taq
Member Posts: 10073 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.2
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Message 3246 of 5796 (865689)
10-29-2019 11:51 AM
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Reply to: Message 3235 by Faith
10-29-2019 2:00 AM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: May all the truth come out. All of it. We know Trump is not guilty of the wrongdoings imputed to him, we know because we know many of his words are misinterpreted, and because we know how to judge character. As the facts are emerging, this would require Trump's entire staff misunderstanding his intentions for months at a time. There was an ongoing campaign to pressure Ukraine to start investigations on Joe Biden. This isn't a matter of misinterpreting a single phrase in a single conversation.
and above all because if he'd done even one impeachable thing they wouldn't be dillydallying as they have been, he'd have been impeached long ago. How long did the inquiries into Clinton and Nixon last?
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Taq
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Message 3249 of 5796 (865692)
10-29-2019 1:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 3247 by Faith
10-29-2019 1:05 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: Well they would have been harping on THE particular "crimes and misdemeanors" they were going to use to impeach him, and it doesn't look like they have arrived at any such particular accusation for the purpose. Only someone deep in the Cult of Trump would say this. For those of us in the real world, the Democrats have repeatedly listed abuse of power (Ukraine) and obstruction of justice (refusing to respond to subpoenas dealing with Ukraine) as the first two articles of impeachment.
And it's just weird to come here after hearing a lot of the comment by conservatives. It's a whole other world. Things you think are unanswerable charges against Trump are either answered by experts on my side or dismissed as silliness. What is their explanation for the quid pro quo of aid money for Biden investigations?
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Message 3251 of 5796 (865698)
10-29-2019 3:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 3250 by RAZD
10-29-2019 2:00 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
RAZD writes: The reason for the emoluments clause in the constitution is clearly to prevent bribery or influence through "donations" to a president. When you have foreign governments staying at his hotel in Washington in order to get an audience, especially when they book whole floors and then do not stay in the rooms, it is clear that they are bribing the president to see him Officials also make sure to use social media to let the administration know that they are putting money in Trump's pocket: What I’ve Learned Staking Out Trump’s Washington Hotel - POLITICO Magazine
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Taq
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Message 3253 of 5796 (865704)
10-29-2019 3:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 3252 by Faith
10-29-2019 3:18 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: There was no quid pro quo for Biden, There has already been sworn testimony that there was, by Bill Taylor and apparently by Sondland. Ignoring the facts is not an explanation.
But Limbaugh this morning described a whole complicated involvement I probably can't remember very well between this guy Taylor who testified in the closed door meeting, {also described as having been shredded by Ratcliffe though Schiff refuses to make that transcript public}_ and Hunter Biden and George Soros against Trump. The transcripts are going to be made public, and Taylor will be testifying in public. Republicans aren't going to be able to hide any longer.
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Message 3258 of 5796 (865718)
10-29-2019 4:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 3254 by Faith
10-29-2019 3:33 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Faith writes: Taylor --and I think also Sondland though I'm not completely sure in his case -- are antiTrump liars. "Liar, Liar, pants on fire" isn't going to work.
It's the Left that's hiding in their closed-door meeting, Just like the police hide behind closed doors when they question witnesses. It's how investigations are done. All of the evidence will come out, don't worry. You will have much more to deny very soon.
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Message 3259 of 5796 (865719)
10-29-2019 5:00 PM
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Reply to: Message 3255 by Phat
10-29-2019 3:40 PM
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Re: Fox News Gets the Facts Backward
Thugpreacha writes: I will agree that it all should come out but have serious reservations as to whether it will change anyone's preconceived political beliefs How many Republican senators would have kicked Hillary Clinton out of office for the same offense? There is no question Trump should be kicked out of office if the charges against him are backed with evidence. The real question is if Republicans are able to put country before party.
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Taq
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Message 3291 of 5796 (866016)
11-04-2019 11:21 AM
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Reply to: Message 3287 by Faith
11-03-2019 1:57 PM
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Re: Civil Debate
Faith writes: One thing Trump is is transparent. Trump is blocking subpoenas for documents and witnesses as we speak. Trump is the only president in modern times that has refused to release his tax returns. Want to try that again?
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Message 3335 of 5796 (866162)
11-06-2019 2:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 3309 by Faith
11-05-2019 7:18 PM
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Re: Impeachable actions by Trump
Faith writes: Look, if any of that crap was impeachable the House Democrats wouldn't still be trying to find something impeachable. It must be really confusing for you when the police say they have an ongoing investigation. Apparently, you don't understand how investigations work.
If the Mueller Report had found anything impeachable they wouldn't have needed to set up this whole "whistleblower" hoax -- a spy in the White House, working for the Democrats, formerly involved with Biden, who didn't even personally hear the phone call he supposedly blew the whistle on. Witnesses have come forward and corroborated the whistleblower account with firsthand knowledge. It's not a hoax.
They've never found anything; all of it is a fishing expedition TRYING to find something, the most disgusting partisan hoax/fraud ever perpetrated on the American people. They have NOTHING, it's all innuendo, it's all smoke and mirrors, all wishful thinking. Charge him with something or shut up.
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Message 3363 of 5796 (866214)
11-07-2019 11:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 3344 by Faith
11-06-2019 6:57 PM
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Re: Impeachable actions by Trump
Faith writes: And yes I know he changed his mind. So what? Why does his opinion or anybody's opinion matter? It's all opinion, meaningless. Sondland wasn't giving his opinion. He was detailing what he actually said to the Ukranian government, that US aid depended on them publicly announcing investigations of the Bidens. He was describing facts. This further corroborates other testimony by other witnesses. Watching you try to avoid these facts only confirms just how guilty Trump really is. If Trump did nothing wrong, then you wouldn't have to try to ignore what the witnesses are saying.
And there's so much confusxion about the Biden comment it's hard to be sure what it's all about but nevertheless my sources understand Trrump committed no impropriety there either. If Trump shot someone in the face on 5th Avenue your sources would say that Trump did nothing wrong. That's why this is so scary. The Cult of Trump has reached the point where their leader can do no wrong, no matter what he does.
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Message 3364 of 5796 (866218)
11-07-2019 11:48 AM
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Reply to: Message 3336 by Faith
11-06-2019 5:19 PM
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Re: Impeachable actions by Trump
Faith writes: Sorry, but there would have been a charge by now going into impeachment and there is NONE, nothing, nada, zip. The Congressional Inquiry started on September 24, 2019. That's a month and a half ago. How long did Ken Starr investigate Clinton?
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The Starr Report, officially the Referral from Independent Counsel Kenneth W. Starr in Conformity with the Requirement of Title 28, United States Code, Section 595(c), is a United States federal government report by Independent Counsel Ken Starr concerning his investigation of President Bill Clinton. Delivered to the United States Congress on September 9, 1998, the allegations in the report led to the impeachment of Bill Clinton and the five-year suspension of Clinton's law license.
Starr Report - Wikipedia
4 years for the impeachment investigation into Clinton. How about Nixon?
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An impeachment process against Richard Nixon began in the United States House of Representatives on October 30, 1973, following the "Saturday Night Massacre" episode of the Watergate scandal. The House Judiciary Committee set up an impeachment inquiry staff and began investigations into possible impeachable offenses by Richard Nixon, the 37th President of the United States. The process was formally initiated on February 6, 1974, when the House granted its Judiciary Committee authority to investigate whether sufficient grounds existed to impeach President Nixon[2] of high crimes and misdemeanors, primarily related to Watergate. This investigation was undertaken one year after the United States Senate established a select committee to investigate the 1972 break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office complex in Washington, D.C., and the Nixon Administration's attempted cover-up of its involvement. Following a subpoena from the Judiciary Committee, in April 1974 edited transcripts of many Watergate-related conversations from the Nixon White House tapes were made public by Nixon, but the committee pressed for full tapes and additional conversations. Nixon refused, but on July 24, the U.S. Supreme Court ordered him to comply. On July 27, 29, and 30, 1974, the Committee approved three articles of impeachment against Nixon, for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress, and reported those articles to the House of Representatives. Two other articles of impeachment were debated but not approved. At this point Congressional leaders believed that there were more than the necessary majority of votes to impeach Nixon in the House and that the number of who would vote to convict him in the Senate was approaching the necessary two-thirds mark.
Impeachment process against Richard Nixon - Wikipedia
2 years for the investigation into Nixon. Now, can you please tell us why, after less than 2 months, the House should have brought charges against Trump when it took multiple years for the last two impeachment investigations?
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