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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It contradicts them because from the beginning the swhole effort has been to smear Trump with misdeeds committed by his opponents.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Russian meddling was on the side of Hillary, not Trump, and the Ukrainian meddling did actually benefit Hillary. This is the actual truth that has been turned on its head in the neverending Democrat attempt to pull off a coup against Trump that started even before he got into office. Nothing do do, then, with anything he did to deserve any of this, it's all political, based on sheer hatred for the man.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
But like rudy and donnie, you have no evidence of this. All you have are rightwing, alt-right conspiracy theories with absolutely not facts to back them. If you had actual evidence I am sure the GOP would love to trot it out for all to see. You should contact Rep. Jim Jordan with the evidence. Here is his office phone number. here's lots of evidence being verified by the various investigative bodies, they don't need mine. I'm sure it will be coming out fairly soon. Meanwhile there are lots of books out there that contain it, probably books you've never heard of. I have some of them but haven't tried to read them yet. I suppose you want titles. You'll have to wait until I get up from the computer or check my Kindle list.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I reported on the Politico piece a ways back there, from January 2017. They said Ukraine intervened on Hillary's behalf and that it made a difference. I hear it very frequently how there were criminal acts committed in the servce of supporting Hillary and bringing down Trump, all orts of illegal stuff. Sorry you don't pay attention to it. Perhaps I'll grace you with some of that information eventually. But you know what? I figure it will all come out soon in an official legal context and nothing I say is going to matter to you anyway. If it doesn't come out nothing I say would make a difference in that case either, even less.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You might as well stop telling me how this or that has been explained to me since if I've heard otherwise from elsewhere, which is usually the case, your opinion
DOES NOT MATTER. Politico clearly said that Ukraine supported Clinton and it made a difference tp the election.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You also heard that the investigation was an official DoJ investigation from somewhere. And that wasn’t true was it? I don't know what you are referring to, please quote me.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
GOP Values: Hypocrisy, Corruption, Greed, Lying, Cheating, Voter Suppression, Election Fraud, Conspiring with the Enemy Everything you impute to the GOP is really what Democrats do. MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT, soon, Lord, please. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Incredible. The transcripts support Trump. What's been coming out "day after day" is Democrat lies, ever since before Trump took office. The real truth should come out in Barr and Durham and Horowitz's investigations. Though with the Dem ability to delude themselves it may be a while before it's recognized.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm taking a look at a book I have on my Amazon PC Kindle page, The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump by Gregg Jarrett. He starts right out in the Preface, An Insidious Abuse of Power, with this:
[In his 2018 book] Comey sermonizes about lies and lying people. This is perversely ironic coming from a man who, more than anyone else, is responsible for the most notorious hoax in modern American history. As director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Comey launched a dilating investigation into Donald J. Trump in the summer of 2016. There was not a whiff of credible evidence to legally justify the probe. So, in a deception worthy of a solid street hustle, Comey labeled it a counterintelligence matter. The clever feint allowed for a covert criminal investigation in search of a crime, reversing and bastardizing the legal process. This is what abuse of power looks like. For the better part of two years, the FBI, U.S. intelligence apparatus, mainstream media, Democrats, and, eventually, Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and his team of partisans peered furiously into every obscure corner and crevice for some proof that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 presidential election.... ...But first, Comey and his confederates had to turn an even tougher trick by exculpating Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, from the sundry crimes she appeared to have committed by storing copious classified documents on her unauthorized private computer system at the Clinton homestead. Despite a subpoena to preserve her records, tens of thousands of government documents were deleted, her server wiped clean, and numerous devices destroyed. How exactly could the FBI circumvent the inevitable multicount indictments against Clinton for everything from obstruction of justice to mishandling of classified documents? It would not be easy. Criminal codes would have to be creatively reinterpretedor deliberately misconstrued. A grand jury must be avoided or diminished at all costs. But the Department of Justice would acquiesce since it was brimming with Clinton allies, especially Attorney General Loretta Lynch. Best of all, President Barack Obama had sent out the clarion call on national television that his chosen Democratic successor should not be prosecuted since she never intended to jeopardize national security, notwithstanding what he characterized as her carelessness. Comey was instrumental to the scheme. He penned an exoneration statement well before the FBI interviewed seventeen key witnesses, including Clinton herself. Then he commandeered the authority of the attorney general in delivering his infamous pronouncement that no charges should be brought. No mention was ever made of another vexing FBI probe into whether Clinton had engaged in corrupt acts with the Russians by hanging the equivalent of a for sale sign on her office door as secretary of state. That investigation quietly vanished under the auspices of the Obama administration. Thus, there was never a serious examination of Clinton and the various laws she seemed to have plainly violated. The entire exercise was a preconceived charade with a predetermined outcome. Evidence of the suspected scheme to protect Clinton from any criminal prosecution was divulged in a five-hundred-page report by the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, that was made public two weeks after The Russia Hoax went to print. In one of the more stunning revelations, Comey claimed he had no memory of the moment he decidedand put down in writingthat Clinton committed crimes.... I could go on and on of course, but someone is just going to come along and trash Jarrett without considering his evidence anyway. But this is one of the books I was thinking of when I mentioned there is evidence of this whole hoax/coup attempt against Trump by the Democrats since before he took office. I'll take a look at other books I have. {Note to Percy: Do you really not mind destroying ordinary communication on your forum by disqualifying ordinary words? You aren't punishing me so much as punishing anyone who tries to read such a post. You say I used these words to denigrate people on the forum, but you haven't shown me how I did so. And besides they are ordinary words, they are not namecalling words or profane words, they are ordinary words, and when you destroy them you destroy ordinary communication. Perhaps you might want to rethink your policy?} Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Politifact is known as an ideological propaganda tool. In any case you can't just post a bare link, you have to quote some part of it.
In any case what Barr, Durham and Horowitz have to say should support the book and show up the lies of Politifact. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes I am reporting what I've heard about the transcripts from quite a few other people, and am probably not going to want to expose my bad eyes to much of anything that is offered in defense of your opposing point of view. So I request that you present your opposing point of view as succinctly, as briefly, as possible. Thank you.
I do however read things on my side because I consider it worth it to use my eyes for that purpose. It's my own personal judgment. Believe me, I do not expect the slightest sympathy from any of you, not the slightest allowance for anything I say or any of my explanations. I do what I choose to do, what seems the best avenue for the given situation. I know you enjoy blasting me for everything no matter what, however, you really aren't interested in why I do what I do. It is kind of a waste of time, though, since if at least you took my reasons into account the conversation wouldn't always be getting dragged into irrelevant side issues. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Remember I usually represent the opposite point of view from yours. And in this case all you've done is steal your list from the Right against he Left. All those statements apply to you, not me.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh that's easy (why "right" isn't censored) -- it's OK to put down the right but if you put down the Left it's avery bad thing and must be punished.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Left is an Ideology, leftists like all people can be sterotyped, they may believe all sorts of degrees and variations on the ideology, but the ideology is what it is and I'm clear about what it is.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
"The Left" is not an ideology, Faith. People are not an ideology. You misunderstood. I was trying to distinguish between the ideology and the people who hold it but you treat them as identical. My fault I suppose but since the whole post was trying to make that distinction it's hard to see how I could have been clearer. Oh well. Yes the Left IS an ideology. I doln't call Liberalism an ideology although it may incorporate the ideology of the Left. I use the word "Left" specifically because I want to emphasize that it is an ideology, it is the ideology of Marxism, it is characterized for instance by political correctness which originated in Marxism, and all the "identity politics" of race and sexual identity and so on, it calls people "haters" if they deviate from the PC ideal, it's fundamentally totalitarian like Marxism and Fascism. It also subscribes to the Marxist economic model of the redistribution of wealth, and it is profoundly anti-American. I was trying to say that people may subscribe to different degrees of the ideology though. The subject was stereotyping and I was saying that people can be stereotyped although they don't hold to the whole ideology. quote: Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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