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Author Topic:   Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
Theodoric
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Message 16 of 308 (866398)
11-10-2019 4:11 PM
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11-10-2019 4:04 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
I thought Prager did a pretty good job of showing some of the threats. I'd add the beating up of a guy right after the election because he'd voted for Trump; the hounding of Republicans out of restaurants; the intimidation and accusation of racism of the kid wearing the MAGA hat minding his own business after a pro **** event; the physical violence by Antifa on campuses when conservatives are scheduled to speak.

How about w do similar to what Percy did on another thread. You bring up an incident of intimidation against a wing nut and I will provide a counter of the intimidation of someone on the left. You seem to think it only counts if it happens to someone on the right and threats and intimidation against those on the left don't count. Lets see who runs out of examples first.

I'd be afraid to wear a MAGA hat in public, a lot of people are.

I am afraid to wear a Puerto Rico hat in places. I am afraid to proclaim I am an atheist where I live.

Liberals aren't intimidated anywhere, they are in-your-face in the street, on the campus, certainly in print and on TV, what on earth are you talking about.

Have you heard of Fox, Rush Limbaugh, right wing radio, Dennis Prager? You truly have no self awareness.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 17 of 308 (866399)
11-10-2019 4:12 PM
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11-10-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
Just goes to show the glorification of ignorance on the right. They do not see their ignorance as an opportunity to learn, but revel it as a badge of honor.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 18 of 308 (866400)
11-10-2019 4:13 PM
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11-10-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
I was actually going to try to answer your vile post, then realized that the *********** you smear Prager with and me as well, calling him a "vile piece of shit" is so low even by ******* standards, that I'm going to snub you instead.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 19 of 308 (866401)
11-10-2019 4:14 PM
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11-10-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
It is interesting... I too googled him and found this incident on the White House lawn. These people are behaving as bad as we occasionally get in our rants. I worry about the world we live in. It seems that infantile behavior is being practiced by fully grown (yet obviously not mature) adults!

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Message 20 of 308 (866402)
11-10-2019 4:17 PM
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11-10-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Nice **** piece hit job on liberalism
Sorry, he lived under Communism but his family lived under Nazism. OR perhaps he was simply saying it's the same thing, both are totalitarian oppressive systems.

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Message 21 of 308 (866403)
11-10-2019 4:20 PM
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11-10-2019 4:12 PM


Calling News "Fake" is another excuse for ignoring it.
Note the lady in the video I posted above. Her voice can be heard crowing about how fake news is over. I saw this war of ideologies coming years ago. And I predict that Christianity itself will be increasingly attacked and denigrated as not politically (or socially) correct. Granted we have it coming. We are often focused on the wrong issues and make ourselves look increasingly stupid and intolerant.

On the other hand, Christians will not simply flow with the cultural norm as it changes and evolves because we believe that humans are incapable of achieving the right morality in and of themselves. This leads to a whole new series of arguments...and I am guessing that you will demand evidence and facts to back up my assertion.

Disclaimer: It is just an opinion.

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Message 22 of 308 (866404)
11-10-2019 4:21 PM
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11-10-2019 4:17 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
quote:
Sorry, he lived under Communism but his family lived under Nazism.

He did? Where and when?


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Message 23 of 308 (866405)
11-10-2019 4:28 PM
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11-10-2019 4:11 PM


Re: Nice **** piece hit job on liberalism
The right does not threaten and intimidate and actually beat people up. You name people with conservative opinions **** rush Limbaugh, Fox, Prager himself and imply they would do that? What ****** are you living on: I was an atheist for years, living in both liberal and conservative areas and never felt the slightest bit threatened.

I'm ********* with all of you.


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Message 24 of 308 (866406)
11-10-2019 4:32 PM
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11-10-2019 4:28 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
quote:
The right does not threaten and intimidate and actually beat people up

There certainly are people on the right who do all that and worse. Surely you must know that much.

E.g at the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville

Saturday morning worshippers at synagogue Beth Israel, faced with men in fatigues with semiautomatic rifles across the street, and a call on Nazi web sites to burn their building, felt it prudent to exit the synagogue through a back door, carrying their Torah scrolls with them.

Wikipedia


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Message 25 of 308 (866407)
11-10-2019 4:40 PM
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11-10-2019 4:13 PM


Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
This is how it starts, though. Each of us have strong beliefs and opinions on which political ideology we support and why. Usually the opponents of our ideology are seen by us as personally attacking our character and the character of the leaders whom we respect. In your case, you will stand shoulder to shoulder with Donald Trump and support him, which is your freedom. Theo may stand shoulder to shoulder with someone whom you despise...perhaps Obama, Hillary, or Sanders.

It is a foregone conclusion that we all will disagree and often passionately. The key in all of this is to avoid becoming critical, dispassionate, and ultimately vindictive and hateful towards one another. Theo could choose better words than "vile piece of shit" to express his disagreement with your group.

Personally I believe that we are in the early stages of a war of ideologies and contrasting world views. I feel that this war will continue and will escalate in the coming years.

The only thing that we need to fear is God. We are commanded to love even our enemies. Of course, FDR phrased it as The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

I am going to step out of this topic and moderate it, however. I cannot do both.

Also I will be out of commission for a couple of weeks, as I have an operation coming up.

Edited by AdminPhat, : wrong attribution

Edited by Thugpreacha, : added input


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Message 26 of 308 (866409)
11-10-2019 5:12 PM
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11-10-2019 4:28 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
The right does not threaten and intimidate and actually beat people up. ...

False.

Even ignoring the rising H8 crimes by White Supremacists and pretend Nazis and other <alt>right groups that you cannot ignore being on the right ... and the increase in right wing H8 crimes in the last few years (FBI statistics), there remains an ongoing campaign to demonize liberals.

Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't occur. We've had this discussion regarding websites posting pictures of democrats with targets over them.

You really have to be blind to think it is only one way Faith.

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Message 27 of 308 (866410)
11-10-2019 5:12 PM
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Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
Yet Prager presents no evidence and only TESTIFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Content.

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Message 28 of 308 (866411)
11-10-2019 5:32 PM


THE RIGHT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS VIOLENT WAS FOX, LIMBAUGH AND PRAGER AND I RESPONDED THAT THE RIGHT IS NOT VIOLENT AND THEY ARE NOT.

I CONSIDER IT SO ********** THAT ANY OF YOU LABEL PRAGER AND OTHER ORDINARY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AS RACISTS, HOMOPHOBES AND SO ON I AM GOING TO GET OFF THIS THREAD. THE **** IS **********. SO SUSPEND ME. PLEASE. PRAGER IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT, THE WHOLE PC LABELING MANIA IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTIMIDATION AND SILENCING PEOPLE.

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Theodoric
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Message 29 of 308 (866412)
11-10-2019 5:53 PM
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11-10-2019 4:20 PM


Re: Calling News "Fake" is another excuse for ignoring it.
Note the lady in the video I posted above. Her voice can be heard crowing about how fake news is over.

I don't watch videos that are posted here. Summarize or it will be ignored.
And I predict that Christianity itself will be increasingly attacked and denigrated as not politically (or socially) correct.

Like nonchristians have always been. Christians will not be attacked and denigrated. They will just be marginalized and have no one but themselves to blame.

we believe that humans are incapable of achieving the right morality in and of themselves.

How do you explain the billions of moral people that don't believe in your mythology?

.and I am guessing that you will demand evidence and facts to back up my assertion.

You didn't say anything that could even be backed with evidence and facts. Why would I demand them?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 30 of 308 (866413)
11-10-2019 5:55 PM
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11-10-2019 4:40 PM


Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
The only thing that we need to fear is God. We are commanded to love even our enemies.

We don't need your preaching. Take it to church.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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