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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Ok you attack Catholics that don't advocate as much hate as you would like. Ok. Got it.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Boo hoo. That's exactly what Christianity is. And it's far from the most plausible one.
many of us resent being placed as just another one of many belief systems. Phat writes:
You're wrong. We believe that our way is the truth. Even your own Book doesn't support many of your dogmas.
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I personally have never read a word by any "mythicist". I see it as a myth because it walks like a myth and quacks like a myth. You see it all as a myth because you fall for the mythicists position."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: Long John Silver is a myth. Why don't you ever use quotes from that book?
I see it as a myth because it walks like a myth and quacks like a myth. That's exactly what Christianity is. Only to unbelievers. As long as there are Christians around, and I might add Nationalists in particular, Christianity will never be placed in the middle of the pack in the fiction section. Only if we truly became Christlike and humble would all of the Nationalistic rhetoric go away. Secular Humanism is too threatening to many of us. Fear of secularism and inclusivism could be said to also be a driving force in the West today. Because of the whole white privilege explanation, which I have read, Christian nationalism will likely continue to impact US politics for the next 50 years. If we survive that long.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
If it was the basis of somebody's religion, I would.
Long John Silver is a myth. Why don't you ever use quotes from that book? Phat writes:
Why? Where's the threat in doing what Jesus told you to do? Is it the Straight and Narrow that you're afraid of? Secular Humanism is too threatening to many of us."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Percy ******* words of his own choice if he doesn't **** the way I use them somewhere or other. Since I have no idea where that might be or why he objects I don't know the origin. He doesn't seem to care if he destroys the possibility of *************, he's just out to punish me or whoever else he gives the same treatment. The words are generally ordinary English words, not *********** or insulting words. In general however he does seem to have an ideological bent, punishing words that represent the political view he opposes. I'd rather be ********* myself. LOL, what's the point if you can just view in peek mode to see what was said??? EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules. I suspect they'd just do away with you but they must realize that you're the most vocal and active of their detractors. And since they debate for sport its always more fun to argue about Trump than to argue about whether the presidency should go to Sanders or Warren. So, you serve a purpose in the food chain and it has ensured your survival thus far. Whatever. You're an outsider, as am I. It is what it is. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
To be fair, he's done the same to some others here, but not on so many words and usually just on clearly insulting words like "troll." In my case he makes it impossible to say ordinary things. Yes, the Peek function solves the problem but having to use it can be an annoyance too.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Yes, the Peek function solves the problem but having to use it can be an annoyance I just don't see the purpose since it entirely defeats the purpose of the censorship to begin with. Seems like its designed to be more of an annoyance than it is a deterrence. Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I agree, but the whole method has no deterrence value anyway. If I don't know why a particular ordinary word got censored I can't very well change the way I used it originally that he objected to. The effect is merely annoying, and more to the reader than to me.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.
So basically you are saying you come here to troll the libs?So whose boot do I lick? Whose ass do I kiss? You really think that we should not be able to respond to the bile spewed by you and Faith? We should take it because anything else is repressing your free expression?Grow up. Put on your big boy pants. You need to hang out at 8chan with all the other alt righters. have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.
I see that the concept of self awareness continues to be lost on you. So in your mind the first half of this sentence was not spewing invective? How about we do the same thing here that Percy did with, I think, Marc9000, on another thread. You post an example of a "left-leaning ideologue" exercising their "license to spew invective". I will follow with an example of a wing nut or alt-righter doing the same or worse. I tell you what. I will make it easy for you to win this game. You can use all the left wingers you want. I will limit myself to just you, Faith and Marc9000. The peanut gallery will be able to assist.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
So basically you are saying you come here to ***** the libs? So whose boot do I lick? Whose ass do I kiss? Somebody has a guilty conscience! I didn't drop a single name! But, hey, if the boot fits, aye.... amirite? "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Hyroglyphx writes:
We're all outsiders. The people who argue against you and Faith argue much more vociferously against each other. You're an outsider, as am I. You don't lose debates because you're victims. You lose debates because your positions are weak."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh aren't you cleverly devious. Or course you're right, we couldn't be right, oh no, that's the EvC party line. Of course you're right.
No "we" are NOT all outsiders and you know it. Hyro was using the term correctly. But you all know how to twist anything to make it fit your own POV. Cleverness in the service of obfuscation and ideological position.l And you are particularly good at it. Are you proud of that? Oh probably you are. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Hyroglyphx writes: I didn't drop a single name! You basically named and impugned everyone:
Hyroglyphx in Message 50 writes: EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules. Moving on:
Whatever. You're an outsider, as am I. It is what it is. So now you're being honest with yourself that you're no moderate? Your avatar is false, too. It's incomprehensible that you don't admit being a fellow traveler with the alt-right and Trump, given that your views so closely align with theirs. But you and Faith could have a wonderful discussion. Premise: Trump is a wonderful president. I wonder if you and Faith agree on immigration. I'm reading Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline right now. One of the points it makes is that most countries of the western world have a fertility rate below replacement rate, which means their populations are decreasing. Replacement rate is 2.1, and we're at 1.8. Japan's is at 1.44, and their population has already started to decline. We and western Europe will soon follow them. Eastern Europe's population decline has already begun. Bulgaria has declined from 9 million in 1985 to 7 million today. Fertility rates decline as women's rights and education increase, and the answer is immigration, something the right seems firmly against. Despite the opposition the U.S. accepts about a million immigrants per year, but if we don't want to have a declining population, if we don't want to be hollowed out from the inside, then that number needs to rise to about three million per year. --Percy
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
I think you missed my point. Or course you're right, we couldn't be right, oh no, that's the EvC ***** ****. Of course you're right. I recently had a long, drawn-out disagreement with Stile about "knowing' God doesn't exist. A little farther back I had a long, drawn-out disagreement with Percy about how scientists would react to a "miracle". And even farther back, I had a long, drawn-out disagreement with a whole swarm of EvC members about transgender issues. Those are just a few examples that spring to mind. The fact is that I am challenged much more by people who are supposedly "on my side" than I am by you. With you, I know that you will eventually start spewing insults and jumping up and down on your Caps Lock key and then you will run away. Even if you have something substantial to say (and I have cheered you a few times), you ruin your own argument by being an asshole. Edited by ringo, : Added quote."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Faith writes: Oh aren't you cleverly devious. Or course you're right, we couldn't be right, oh no, that's the EvC party line. Of course you're right. Reminds me of the 1964 Barry Goldwater slogan, "In your heart you know he's right," to which the Democrats replied, "In your heart you know he's very right." --Percy
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