|
Register | Sign In |
|
QuickSearch
EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total) |
| |
ChatGPT | |
Total: 916,742 Year: 3,999/9,624 Month: 870/974 Week: 197/286 Day: 4/109 Hour: 0/0 |
Thread ▼ Details |
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
|
Thread Info
|
|
|
Author | Topic: Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
We're all outsiders. No, you are definitely an insider -- the usual suspects.
The people who argue against you and Faith argue much more vociferously against each other. You don't lose debates because you're victims. You lose debates because your positions are weak. That's rich coming from someone who never fleshes out a single idea. You constantly offer what is basically tantamount one-liners. You simply have a lot of fans cheering you on. Don't confuse popularity with the rightness of a position. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Donald Trump Jr. launched his book Triggered: How The Left Thrives on Hate and Wants to Silence Us yesterday
He walked out of the launch, without giving his talk because of Right-wing hecklers
Donald Trump Jr walks out of Triggered book launch after heckling — from supporters I’m willing to listen Trump began.
Q and A! Q and A! the audience yelled back. We’ll go into the lion’s den and talk Trump tried again. Then open the Q and A! came the immediate response. Guilfoyle, forced to shout to make herself heard, told students in the crowd: You’re not making your parents proud by being rude and disruptive. She and Trump Jr left the stage moments later.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Hyroglyphx writes:
Check out my reply to Faith in Message 59.
No, you are definitely an insider -- Hyroglyphx writes:
Seventeen thousand one-liners add up. If you're confused about the depth of my position on any issue, feel free to read my posts. We'll wait.
You constantly offer what is basically tantamount one-liners. Hroglyphx writes:
Don't confuse "rightness" of a position with strength of a position. Consensus is not just popularity. Don't confuse popularity with the rightness of a position."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I wonder why I doubt this report.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
|
quote: Because you don’t like it, of course.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9196 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Somebody has a guilty conscience! I didn't drop a single name! But, hey, if the boot fits, aye.... amirite? You really think you made some sort of point and exposed me about something? You called out everyone that is not a hard right nut job. Yes, I admit I am not a hard right nut job. I think that is quite obvious. Let's look at what you posted.
hyro writes:
Yup. That is just about everyone, except you, Faith and Marc9000. Yeah, you really burned me. Actually, I think you did what the kids call a self-pwn. EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.Good job also on keeping up your tradition of not responding to what people actually write. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8546 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Because it's reality and puts your beloved alt-reich wing in a bad light showing it to be, as some of us have been saying all along, much worse than your stilted view of the left.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9196 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Because you refuse to consider anything that threatens your worldview. No matter the amount of facts and evidence presented.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
So now you're being honest with yourself that you're no moderate? Your avatar is false, too. Compared to you (far left) and compared to Faith (far right) I am as moderate as it gets. The only other moderate I can think of on the forum is Phat.
It's incomprehensible that you don't admit being a fellow traveler with the alt-right and Trump, given that your views so closely align with theirs. And what view is that, aside from my support of the 2nd Amendment? What position(s) do I hold that aligns so closely with the Alt-Right? We're eking towards Godwin's Law here. If I wanted to reduce you to a Stalinist, all I'd have to do is point out a few similarities and ascribe them to you. As I've pointed out before, when have I ever shied away from controversy or speaking my mind in the decade + that I've been here??? If I was Alt-Right I would proudly just tell you.
But you and Faith could have a wonderful discussion. Premise: Trump is a wonderful president. He's not a wonderful president and is in fact one of the worst, of which, I've been very vocal about.
Fertility rates decline as women's rights and education increase, and the answer is immigration, something the right seems firmly against. And I have stated that immigration is of vital importance to the security of the United States. I am in agreement that the declining birth rate is problematic for the countries experiencing it and that smart, sensible immigration is an excellent way to hedge against it. You keep saying "the Right" and making associations with me. I'm against Trump, I'm against the outdated concept of a wall, I'm in support of increased legal immigration, etc. You took one thing where I said the way France, Sweden and Germany is doing it is stupid and built an entire false narrative out of it. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No it's becvause I know the kind of reception Trump Jr. Has been getting on the various conservative talk shows and your report doesn't reflect that reception.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I know you hate Trump, I know the ways you disagree with me, I wonder why nobody else does.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please do not insult me. I know what I'm saying and why, I don't need your jaundiced ideological putdowns, thank you.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Maybe because you define "hate" as pointing out his lies. I know you **** Trump, I know the ways you disagree with me, I wonder why nobody else does."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: And why would it ? It should be easy to find talk shows that aren’t affiliated with the group that heckled him.
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RAZD Member (Idle past 1430 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I'm reading Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline right now. One of the points it makes is that most countries of the western world have a fertility rate below replacement rate, which means their populations are decreasing. Replacement rate is 2.1, and we're at 1.8. Japan's is at 1.44, and their population has already started to decline. We and western Europe will soon follow them. Eastern Europe's population decline has already begun. Bulgaria has declined from 9 million in 1985 to 7 million today. It is a rational reaction to overpopulation, it doesn't mean it will continue until there is no population. When populations exceed the carrying capacity of their ecology, the population adjusts by reducing population.
Fertility rates decline as women's rights and education increase, ... Women's rights are part of education and a progressive society that believes that every person deserves the same rights to pursue their life the way they want to live will adjust overall behavior accordingly. It's not only women declining to have children, but men as well, often choosing smaller families than their spouses would like.
... and the answer is immigration, something the right seems firmly against. Despite the opposition the U.S. accepts about a million immigrants per year, but if we don't want to have a declining population, if we don't want to be hollowed out from the inside, then that number needs to rise to about three million per year. And if we as an educated progressive society want a smaller population then having a temporary declining population is desirable. Most of the problems in the world can be traced to overpopulation. We don't need to live cheek by jowl in ever more crowded environments. The population in the US is over twice what it was when I was in school. Global climate change has accelerated in that time frame as more people demand and use more energy wasting toys. The mining of fossil fuels to supply that energy demand has also doubled. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
|
|
|
Do Nothing Button
Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved
Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024