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Faith
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Message 946 of 953 (866336)
11-10-2019 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 945 by PaulK
11-10-2019 3:25 AM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
It's really remarkable how you get away with the fact that so many of your posts to me are vicious ad hominems, provoked by nothing.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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PaulK
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Message 947 of 953 (866338)
11-10-2019 4:17 AM
Reply to: Message 946 by Faith
11-10-2019 4:05 AM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
Provoked by nothing ?

We have a report of chat logs from assorted right wingers.

You dismiss the report of the contents as “paranoia”, claim that it displays “hatred”, suggest that it only shows that the Right don’t want to live in a nation run by the Left and end up by suggesting that instead of reporting the facts we should find ways you could get around a non-existent “tyranny”. (Message 933)

You do not at any point engage with the substance of the report, which you probably haven’t even read.

And then, after all that you dare to suggest that asking you to support your claims is just a smokescreen and that all you are doing is presenting the Right Wing view. Message 939 Well we can see what that view is, thank you very much.


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Theodoric
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Message 948 of 953 (866348)
11-10-2019 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 944 by Faith
11-10-2019 3:09 AM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
Jarrett presents no evidence. He makes numerous claims that have been shown to be not true. How about you read the book and show his arguments that are not untrue. Start with one argument he makes in his own words.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AdminPhat
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Message 949 of 953 (866350)
11-10-2019 9:51 AM


Closing For Now
Reading the previous 20 posts or so, I conclude that this topic has seen its day. PaulK, you were the topic originator and that last comment sealed its doom.

Faith may have issues with presenting evidence, that is clear. Did any of you ever consider that it is hard for her to find stuff that challenges her view and/or that she is not only nearly blind but is a creature of habit? She listens to Right-Wing Media and seldom has reason to distrust it. That's another topic for another thread.

Might I suggest starting a new topic, toning down your emotional responses to each other, and in particular stopping the personal attacks?

I have a topic in mind, but I will let one of you start it. I recently read an article that showcases the conservative POV regarding the Left.
Fear of the Left: The Most Powerful Force in America Today by conservative talk show host Dennis Prager.

Start a new topic. Your old arguments are now archived.


  
Theodoric
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Message 950 of 953 (866353)
11-10-2019 10:09 AM


Faith has no evidence others to blame
So Faith is unable defend her claims and arguments. Spews attacks right and left. Yet Phat continues to defend her and blames other for derailing the thread. Ignorance and stupidity is no excuse to not have to defend claims and assertions.

Phat,
Just because you prefer Christians does not mean you should defend Faith and give her preferable treatment. But then again I expect nothing less. You have long history of acting like this here.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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PaulK
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Message 951 of 953 (866355)
11-10-2019 10:21 AM


Faith’s reading problems do not excuse her from the need to provide evidence. They do not excuse her invention of falsehoods to dismiss material she has not read. Or in short her physical weaknesses do not excuse her moral failings.

Faith is probably jubilant at the closure of this thread, finally a victory for Satan! By her lies she has made a small step to silencing the truth. But only a very small step.

Her main goal here - as in the other political threads is to cover up the Deplorable nature of much of the Right. True, she usually succeeds only in showing her own deplorable nature. But that is not a reason to give her what she wants.


  
AdminPhat
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Message 952 of 953 (866356)
11-10-2019 10:30 AM
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11-10-2019 10:09 AM


Closing For Now
My observation was that the overall quality of this topic had denigrated to insults and name-calling.

The Forum Guidelines specifically reminds us to argue the position and not the person.

Need I remind you what has been said?

I note that you are simply demanding accountability and facts.

PaulK writes:

Faith’s reading problems do not excuse her from the need to provide evidence. They do not excuse her invention of falsehoods to dismiss material she has not read.

Noted. I still believe that this thread is out of control. I am not taking sides.

I posted an editorial that explains possible reasons why.
Faith vs Facts

I believe that this topic has had its run. If anyone wishes to start a new one they may do so.

I believe that I allowed everyone two summation posts.


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Thugpreacha
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Message 953 of 953 (866611)
11-13-2019 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Chiroptera
06-09-2019 9:57 AM


Re: Evangelical Christians demanding special privileges
I know of some Evangelicals (Trying to figure out if I am one, by definition.. ) that support non-discrimination laws. I fully agree with them. I might point out, however, that it is Christian nationalism that is driving this counter-movement to the ACLU. I also am in favor of the US remaining a secular nation. I believe that we would fail miserably if we decided to become a Theocracy. Human nature and all that, you see.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith


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