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I'm wondering why "Right" isn't censored.

Trump has thrown himself a tweet-fest over the past 24 hours. Here he takes a shot at the Democrats and the impeachment process: Here he accuses Schiff of altering the transcripts of witnesses before the impeachment inquiry: Here the president who won't release his tax returns, who makes everyone sign an NDA, and who tells everyone they mustn't testify before Congress claims to be the "most Transparent President in history": Here accuses Schiff and the Democrats of making up evidence: Here he accuses the Democrats of subverting Democracy: And here in a series of three tweets he accuses many impeachment inquiry witnesses and their lawyers of being Never Trumpers and accuses the Bidens of wrongdoing, corruption, and taking millions: Here he lies about the DACA recipients, saying that many of them are "very tough, hardened criminals" when it is well known that immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than U.S. citizens. And he lies again in closing because we all know that if he wins on DACA before the Supreme Court, which seems likely, that he'll never offer a palatable deal to the Democrats: Another gratuitous shot at the Democrats: And finally, I don't where Trump gets his figures, but they're either wrong or misleading. I did find a report on a study that found that at least 26% of people in the U.S. had been arrested at least once by age 26, Younger Americans Much More Likely to Have Been Arrested Than Previous Generations; Increase Is Largest Among Whites and Women | RAND: I'm not sure how to tote this all up. Let's call the current attacks/insults score: Trump: 13; Democrats: 0--Percy

Trump has a new series of three tweets this morning. Here he accuses Pelosi of valuing power over principle and being a member of the class of "worst people" who are in politics, then he accuses the Democrats of using impeachment as a "political cudgel": And here he claims there was no quid pro quo, which is true since what really happened was extortion: Trump also mentions that there was no investigation of Burisma Holdings or the Bidens, as if having your dastardly plans fail makes you innocent.Current attacks/insults score: Trump: 16; Democrats: 0Come on Faith and Mike, can't you find any gratuitous and false Democratic attacks/insults?--Percy

Oh that's easy (why "right" isn't censored) -- it's OK to put down the right but if you put down the Left it's avery bad thing and must be punished.

I think it has more to do with your thoughtless stereotyping of the left.

The Left is an Ideology, leftists like all people can be sterotyped, they may believe all sorts of degrees and variations on the ideology, but the ideology is what it is and I'm clear about what it is.

Says the most ideologically driven blinded by her ideology poster on the forum."The Left" is not an ideology, Faith. People are not an ideology.

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leftism noun

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leftism | \ lef-ti-z’m

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Definition of leftism

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1 : the principles and views of the left also : the movement embodying these principles
2 : advocacy of or adherence to the doctrines of the left

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People on the left embrace leftist ideologies.

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Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy.[1][2][3][4] It typically involves a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished.[1]

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and just for completeness

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Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on liberty, consent of the governed, and equality before the law.[1][2][3] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but they generally support limited government, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), capitalism (free markets), democracy, secularism, gender equality, racial equality, internationalism, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10]

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Actually you make it out to be much more than it really is. You think science in general, and evolution in particular, is a leftist plot to distract people from the "real truth" of your ideology. You think anyone slightly to the left of your extreme right wing ideology is leftist, and yes, you are very clear about that.You think objective empirical facts are wrong when they contradict your ideology.You rant at people for having a different opinion, especially when they back it up with facts that you can't accept.Enjoy

You misunderstood. I was trying to distinguish between the ideology and the people who hold it but you treat them as identical. My fault I suppose but since the whole post was trying to make that distinction it's hard to see how I could have been clearer. Oh well.Yes the Left IS an ideology. I doln't call Liberalism an ideology although it may incorporate the ideology of the Left. I use the word "Left" specifically because I want to emphasize that it is an ideology, it is the ideology of Marxism, it is characterized for instance by political correctness which originated in Marxism, and all the "identity politics" of race and sexual identity and so on, it calls people "haters" if they deviate from the PC ideal, it's fundamentally totalitarian like Marxism and Fascism. It also subscribes to the Marxist economic model of the redistribution of wealth, and it is profoundly anti-American.I was trying to say that people may subscribe to different degrees of the ideology though. The subject was stereotyping and I was saying that people can be stereotyped although they don't hold to the whole ideology.quote:Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Trump is quite right and you are just echoing the Democrat propaganda machine. No there was no quid pro quo OR extortion. The Democrats just keep changing the definition of what they are trying to impeach him for because none of it is impeachable, and they will soon abandon extortion too. They are trying to get their lies, their emotional words. int othe public mind, knowing they are lies but not caring because all they want to do is hang something on him and get him out of office although he deserves none of it. Too bad you've bought the whole lying scheme.It's really interesting, Percy, how most of the words you've censored in my posts are words telling the truth about the Left. In other words your method is political and ideololgical in itself, you are censoring my point of view because you don't like it. In other words you are acting like a totalitarian leftist ideologue, just like the ruling class in a Communist country. You should think about the words in this very paragraph that you have censored. You're a regular partyliner for the Left.That is, you need to notice that CENSORSHIP IS A TOOL OF TOTALITARIANISM AND UTTERLY UNAMERICAN.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

In the context of America, you couldn't be more wrong. The left/right dichotomy of politics in America is merely liberalism/conservatism, not Marxism/fascism. This appeared at the bottom of your post. You were going to quote something?--Percy

I'm sorry you are very very wrong, nave I guess. You have no sense of the history of this stuff. I've watched it szince the sixties while I guess you had your head in the clouds.

No, the "quote" was left over from the post I was responding to.

How is he right? I'm just reading the White House transcript of the phone call, reading the transcripts of the closed door proceedings, and watching Kent and Taylor testify before Congress yesterday. The Trump administration through irregular diplomatic channels led by Giuliani attempted to extort from the new Zelensky government in Ukraine a public declaration that the Bidens were under investigation (thereby benefiting Trump's 2020 political campaign) by threatening to withhold the release of military aid authorized by Congress that Ukraine desperately needed to hold off and repel Russian military aggression.If you have issues with moderation you should take them to the General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') thread.--Percy

So once again we see you trying to redefine words to mean something different than what they mean to everyone else, while ignoring the meaning of words that can be used to say what you mean. Or in other words you broadbrush everything and everyone even slightly to the left of your extreme personal ideology by calling them all one group, and then equate everyone in that group with the worst extreme example you can think of. Except that you are implying that they are all just as bad by your stereotyping.Do you ever wonder why people think you are hateful?Enjoy

Casting insults of "naivite" and "no sense of history" and "head in the clouds" is no way to make your case.Liberalism (government to improve people's lives) is not Marxism (state ownership of industry and business), and conservatism (minimal government) is not fascism (authoritarian government control of both the economic and social spheres).--Percy