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Faith 
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Message 3429 of 5796 (866655)
11-14-2019 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3423 by Percy
11-13-2019 10:05 AM


Re: Another Insulting Trump Tweet
Trump is quite right and you are just echoing the Democrat propaganda machine. No there was no quid pro quo OR extortion. The Democrats just keep changing the definition of what they are trying to impeach him for because none of it is impeachable, and they will soon abandon extortion too. They are trying to get their lies, their emotional words. int othe public mind, knowing they are lies but not caring because all they want to do is hang something on him and get him out of office although he deserves none of it. Too bad you've bought the whole lying scheme.
It's really interesting, Percy, how most of the words you've censored in my posts are words telling the truth about the Left. In other words your method is political and ideololgical in itself, you are censoring my point of view because you don't like it. In other words you are acting like a totalitarian leftist ideologue, just like the ruling class in a Communist country. You should think about the words in this very paragraph that you have censored. You're a regular partyliner for the Left.
That is, you need to notice that CENSORSHIP IS A TOOL OF TOTALITARIANISM AND UTTERLY UNAMERICAN.
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Faith 
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Message 3431 of 5796 (866659)
11-14-2019 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 3430 by Percy
11-14-2019 9:05 AM


Re: Left is an ideology
I'm sorry you are very very wrong, nave I guess. You have no sense of the history of this stuff. I've watched it szince the sixties while I guess you had your head in the clouds.

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Faith 
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Message 3432 of 5796 (866660)
11-14-2019 9:13 AM
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11-14-2019 9:05 AM


Re: Left is an ideology
No, the "quote" was left over from the post I was responding to.

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Faith 
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Message 3454 of 5796 (866763)
11-15-2019 1:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3448 by Percy
11-15-2019 9:12 AM


Re: The Right and Trump's Tax Returns
Is there anyone on the right who finds it suspicious that Trump is this determined to keep his tax returns secret?
Not I. I know how the Left operates, it is they I'm suspicious of. Of course nobody else here is, but I am. All they've done for three years is make mountains out of molehills, invent crimes out of nothing, anything to hold against the Preident, and that's all they want to do with his tax returns. Since his are likely to be extremely compolicated and nobody on the Left is going to understand them anyway, just as they don't understand how everything Trump has done is perfectly legal and Constitutional that they are trying to impeach him for because it just doesn't sound right to them, they are going to do that with his tax returns too. If there were any tax prolems the IRS would long since have revealed them, but the Left just wants to see what they can find that doesn't sound quite right to them so they can make up some kind of wrongdoing that doesn't exist, like all the other inventions they've come up with over the last three years. He has no legal obligation to release his tax returns and I'm glad he's sticking to it.
MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT and the Left get shown to be the liars and frauds they are.
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Faith 
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Message 3456 of 5796 (866769)
11-15-2019 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 3455 by Taq
11-15-2019 2:40 PM


Re: The Right and Trump's Tax Returns
Oh come on. I claim they are legal based on the fact that the IRS and no other legal knowledgeable entity has said otherwise. I know the average Lefty isn't going to have a clue, and nor would I.
Trump did not do a quid pro quo for his political campaign, that's a big fat stupid lie. Read the damn transcript, there is no such thing in uit.. this is a typical example of what I was talking about, just making up crap you call criminal which is not, just because you're a bunch of idiots who don't understand the Constitution or anything else, or worse.
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Faith 
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Message 3458 of 5796 (866774)
11-15-2019 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 3457 by Percy
11-15-2019 3:22 PM


Re: The Right and Trump's Tax Returns
It's as consistent as it would be if you'd demanded anything else he's legally not required to give you and he refused.

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Faith 
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Message 3466 of 5796 (866851)
11-16-2019 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 3465 by JonF
11-16-2019 1:27 PM


Re: The Russians are ecstatic
Are you at all aware that there isn't one iota of evidence for the conclusions being drawn here? It's all designed to give an impression without any evidence whatever. This is typical of the Lfft, it's exatly how this sham of an impeachment is proceeding, and it's typical of the USSR, so THAT's what Putin should love. This is all typical propaganda and you fall for it. Even quotes aren't given a context so you can make them appear to say whatever you want them to say. The American Left IS the voice of Putin these days, the voice of Communism. And either you don't know it or you are part of the plot. The fake news blitz hasn't stopped for a moment, every headline about Trump involves some kind of insinuation: some "official" or other heard from some other official or other somebody or other saying something negative about Trump. All insinuation designed to put Trump in a bad light, no honesty no concern for truth or fairness. We are already living in Putin's world and it ain't the GOP doing it.
As evidenced, may I point out again, by Percy's lfft-leaning snnsership of my poists.
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Faith 
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Message 3467 of 5796 (866852)
11-16-2019 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 3464 by Percy
11-16-2019 11:18 AM


Re: The Right and Trump's Tax Returns
What courts in connection with what issue?
As a private citizen Trump is not required to reveal his tax returns merely for the sake of a curious Congress. They have no legal reason to ask for them, just as the Mueller debacle had no reason for existing in the first place because it had no legal reason for doing an investigation. So you are going to have to do better at justifying this supposed court order4. For all I know it's just another lfftist court purvurtung the Constitution for political purposes. And of course the words that clearly define the krmenal mintallutty as lfftist are the ones you senser. I wonder why that might be?
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Faith 
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Message 3469 of 5796 (866854)
11-16-2019 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 3468 by PaulK
11-16-2019 5:08 PM


Re: The Russians are ecstatic
What did I link for what purpose where you devious insinuator? The Russians are NOT backing Trump. They backed Hillary as did the Ukraine. Hillary is the Leftist, Trump has been opposing their policies they have no reason to support him. For instance Trump has been giving aid to the Ukirainian military in order to defend themselves against Russia since he took office, aid that Obama denied them. Why should Russian be in favor of that? You guys are up to your necks in lying propagadanda.
And Percy is up to his eyeballs in totalitarian communist style censorship.
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Faith 
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Message 3496 of 5796 (867065)
11-19-2019 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3493 by Percy
11-18-2019 11:25 PM


Re: More Trump Attack/Insult Tweets
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Marc and Faith aren't even trying to keep up
I may leave it to Marc, he usually does a better job than I do on this stuff because he's more knowledgeable about it all. And I have trouble reading all that white stuff so I'll have to transfer it to a better background. I can do that but am not up to it at the moment.
Let me just predict though: Trump's tweets are generally aimed against the fake news and lies of the Democrats. So although you characterize them as not being insulting they are nothing but insulting in a general way in their neverending attacks on him.

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Faith 
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Message 3503 of 5796 (867091)
11-20-2019 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 3501 by Phat
11-19-2019 11:35 PM


Impeachment debacle
Seems to me there's already been plenty of "bombshell" work being done by the Republicans as they interrogate the "witnesses" in the so-called "impeachment hearings," most of whom aren't witnesses to anything at all. Some of the Republicans have done a great job of exposing the total fraud of the hearings and the supposed evidence which is mostly hearsay and when it is direct is a big Nothing. And the media ignores all of that so whatever this bombshell is supposed to be in December of course your friend is right it will be ignored. Because the whole thing is a setup, it's being done with no regard whatever to the Constitutional framework for an impeachment, they have no witness evidence to anything impeachable they're just making it up as they go along, it's all feelings and opinions and hearsay and meaningless emotion about nothing. BUT they will make it stick somehow. It's all a sham, the most fraudulent thing that has ever been perpectrated by government against the people and against a President, a travesty, a charade, just like the Mueller report was, and all the fake news that has been printed day after day after day since Trump took office. But they'll probably find some way to impeach him. I just hope the people will see the fraud and be disgusted with it. But the hatred of Trump for trivial reasons will probably impeach him.
Oh this fraud of protecting the "whistleblower" is such a sick joke. The accused has the right in any context to confront his accuser but no they won't allow it, it's so important to them to "protect" him. Everybody knows who he is, he's a Democrat plant who has worked for Biden and was set up by Schiff for this role, but they have to keep up the charade of how important it is not to expose him. But are all you Democrats here accepting all this as real? Probably, huh? How pathetic.
Hey Ukraine got their aid and it had nothing whatever to do with anything Trump asked them to do. It was on its way already anyway, and Ukraine didn't do any of the things they were supposed to do for it. That whole thing is a made up nothing but I guess they don't care they'll just go on pretending Trump extorted or bribed or whatever they want to pin on him. )(hey nobody even seems to know that the bribery mentioned in the Constitution isn't something the President does to someone else, but bribery by a foreign power to get something THEY want. Oh well,nobody cares about such niceties of Constitutional law. Impeach impeach impeach no matter what no matter how. Oh and did you know that Obama wouldn't give Ukraine any military aid at all and that's why Russia was able to overrun them? Now they have some military protection against Russia. So much for Trump's supposed obeisance to Russia/Putin. But that was true of Obama, not Trump. And again nobody cares, they are determined impeach Trump NO MATTER WHAT..
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Faith 
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Message 3505 of 5796 (867095)
11-20-2019 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 3504 by DrJones*
11-20-2019 1:21 PM


Re: Impeachment debacle
So it isn't a trial, so what. Depriving Trump of the opportunity to confront his accuser is just ...barbarian. Why hould Trump testify at all? This is all a railroading, he is guilty of nothing. And the more the "witnesses" talk the more obvious that is. But protesting this "whistleblower" is just to project Schiff and those who put him up to it, and keep the truth about his anti-Trump connections from coming out.
If you've been following the hearings, and I've only heard bits and pieces of it myelf, but you mmight have heard one of the Republicans state something about how the whistleblower's identity is well known and that he knows Schiff knows his identity too and has been lying when he says he doesn't. That's some evidence. His identity is known to everybody, I know it too.
They got their aid without any quid pro quo of any sort. And Obama didn't give them any.

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Faith 
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Message 3508 of 5796 (867098)
11-20-2019 2:29 PM
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11-20-2019 2:26 PM


Re: Impeachment debacle
His name is something like Eric Schiaramello

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Faith 
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Message 3510 of 5796 (867100)
11-20-2019 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 3507 by JonF
11-20-2019 2:27 PM


Re: Impeachment debacle
TRUMP DID NOT TRY TO EXTORT UKRAINE THAST IS A FOUL LIE.
END OF DISCUSSION.

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Faith 
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Message 3517 of 5796 (867112)
11-20-2019 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 3515 by JonF
11-20-2019 3:17 PM


Re: Impeachment debacle
No he did not. Aid was not mentioned at all in the phone call, and even if it had been it is common for Presidents to make aid contingent on such things as whether there is corruption in the country to receive it, whih is what he was asking about. But no aid was mentioned, it was not withheld, they got it and they did nothing at all in order to get it so there was no extortion whatever. You all just want ot think there was but you don't understand anything about it so you just impose your own hatred of Trump on it.

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