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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Are you at all aware that there isn't one iota of evidence for the conclusions being drawn here? It's all designed to give an impression without any evidence whatever. This is typical of the Lfft, it's exatly how this sham of an impeachment is proceeding, and it's typical of the USSR, so THAT's what Putin should love. This is all typical propaganda and you fall for it. Even quotes aren't given a context so you can make them appear to say whatever you want them to say. The American Left IS the voice of Putin these days, the voice of Communism. And either you don't know it or you are part of the plot. The fake news blitz hasn't stopped for a moment, every headline about Trump involves some kind of insinuation: some "official" or other heard from some other official or other somebody or other saying something negative about Trump. All insinuation designed to put Trump in a bad light, no honesty no concern for truth or fairness. We are already living in Putin's world and it ain't the GOP doing it.
As evidenced, may I point out again, by Percy's lfft-leaning snnsership of my poists. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What courts in connection with what issue?
As a private citizen Trump is not required to reveal his tax returns merely for the sake of a curious Congress. They have no legal reason to ask for them, just as the Mueller debacle had no reason for existing in the first place because it had no legal reason for doing an investigation. So you are going to have to do better at justifying this supposed court order4. For all I know it's just another lfftist court purvurtung the Constitution for political purposes. And of course the words that clearly define the krmenal mintallutty as lfftist are the ones you senser. I wonder why that might be? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Funny how the woman who linked to Russian state media trashing Biden still hasn’t figured out that the Russians are backing Trump.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What did I link for what purpose where you devious insinuator? The Russians are NOT backing Trump. They backed Hillary as did the Ukraine. Hillary is the Leftist, Trump has been opposing their policies they have no reason to support him. For instance Trump has been giving aid to the Ukirainian military in order to defend themselves against Russia since he took office, aid that Obama denied them. Why should Russian be in favor of that? You guys are up to your necks in lying propagadanda.
And Percy is up to his eyeballs in totalitarian communist style censorship. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Yes they do have a legal reason to ask for them.
Federal courts have jurisdiction over the issue. I know you are just troling about this and you know you have no actual argument or evidence to support your BS, but trollers gota trol.
Trump’s Taxes Are Fair Game. Just Ask Warren Harding. quote: The law
quote:26 U.S. Code § 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute So you are wrong. Again. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
In addition to Congress having the right to see Trumps Tax returns every State where il Donald does business and every lending source has a right to see il Donald's tax returns and the financial records of every company and officer in any company that does business in that State.
Impeachment is a threat to il Donald because as soon as he is out of office every government of every state where he has ever done business will be demanding an audit. Then once the States convict him the IRS can get started.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: You linked to a Russia Today video to prove that Biden boasted about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor sacked. Which wasn’t the only attack on Biden there.
quote: Apart from the advertising, the leak of the DNC emails, the trashing of a Biden, the Trump Tower meeting... Nobody can be this blind.
quote: Russia is practically at war with the Ukraine. That’s WHY America is giving military aid to the Ukraine. Fortunately the Republicans in Congress aren’t as pro-Russian as Trump.
quote: Which would be a reason for the current Russian government to oppose her.
quote: He’s been pretty reluctant in fact.
quote: The aid he tried to block until Congress made him release it. And military aid was sent to the Ukraine under Obama.
quote: Because Trump is so divisive, he weakens America, that’s why the Russians are so happy what is going on, as the Republican Party rallies around the cover-up. And we know that you’re the one supplying the lying propaganda here. As usual.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Mueller debacle had no reason for existing in the first place because it had no legal reason for doing an investigation.
Lie. The purpose of the Mueller investigation was to look into Russian interference in the 2016 election and any other crimes they came across in their investigation. Multiple russians have been indicted for interference in the election.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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He has no legal obligation to release his tax returns and I'm glad he's sticking to it. Actually he has a legal obligation to provide information to congress so they can properly perform their oversight duties. This is why he lost in the court and was ordered to provide his tax returns. This is not to judge whether or not the filing passed the IRS as a legal tax return, the question are
Neither of these have anything to do with the legality of the tax filing itself, but everything to do with whether or not Humpty Dumbty Trumpy is committing fraud.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Mueller debacle had no reason for existing in the first place because it had no legal reason for doing an investigation. Lie. The purpose of the Mueller investigation was to look into Russian interference in the 2016 election and any other crimes they came across in their investigation. Multiple russians have been indicted for interference in the election. Including now the recent conviction of Roger Stone. So much winning ... by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: Percy writes: The courts have already ruled that he's legally require to provide his tax returns. That's why he's filed appeals with the Supreme Court. What courts in connection with what issue? Have you not been following the news? Read this: Trump Taxes: Appeals Court Rules President Must Turn Over 8 Years of Tax Returns - The New York Times
As a private citizen Trump is not required to reveal his tax returns merely for the sake of a curious Congress. Under federal tax law 26 U.S. Code 6103, Congress may request copies of anyone's tax returns:
quote: They have no legal reason to ask for them, just as the Mueller debacle had no reason for existing in the first place because it had no legal reason for doing an investigation. The FBI began an investigation based upon reports of Trump campaign contacts with Russian agents, Trump fired Comey to halt the Russia investigation, and Sessions properly recused himself and appointed Mueller to continue the investigation. All according to the book.
So you are going to have to do better at justifying this supposed court order. Not this court order. These court orders. Trump lost two court cases, not one. He's appealed both to the Supreme Court.
For all I know it's just another leftist court perverting the Constitution for political purposes. The 2nd Circuit where Trump lost his appeal related to hush money payments has 13 active judges. Eight were appointed by Republicans, five by Democrats. In the other request for tax information, a three-judge panel rejected Trumps arguments in a 2-1 ruling. Trump requested a hearing before the full DC Court of Appeals and lost 8-3. I don't have information about who appointed them.
And of course the words that clearly define the criminal mentality as leftist are the ones you censor. I wonder why that might be? You should take moderation issues to the proper thread. --Percy
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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What courts in connection with what issue? quote: And there have been more since then. Most recently Roger Stone.
... in connection with what issue? In connection with Mueller's report -- mostly with Russian interference, obstruction of justice, lying to congress, etc. and other courts. Google it and read. If you don't you are living in a bubble of ignorance. If you don't want to do that then you are not interested in the truth. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : subtitleby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1509 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Haven't you already cited this Tlaib quote? A couple of times? Is that all you can do, cite the same thing over and over again? Here's my take on it. I object to Tlaib's use of crude language in a public forum, and I object to her advocacy of impeachment at a time when sufficient evidence of wrongdoing was not yet public. I cite that quote more than once to make clear that this statement of yours;
quote: is a false statement. Political opinions aside, it's simply a false statement. You say you object to Tlaib's statement, but your false statement above shows that you're not acknowledging that she made it, or that so many others associated with anti-Trump rhetoric are using similar crudeness.
That quote's not from Amazon. That's from his publisher, Simon and Schuster, the company making money off the sale of his books (as is Amazon). The Art of the Deal is just Trump lying about one failed business deal after another. As we saw after he took office, he has no negotiating skills whatsoever. His negotiating style is clumsy, bullying, heavy-handed, extortive, manipulative. I don't think Simon and Schuster made those statements based on what they hope will happen, but largely on what has already happened, based on the sales and reviews of Trump's books. Your saying he has no negotiating skills, well, that's more of an emotional statement than a factual one.
But what has the success of this book to do with the fact that he's crude and uncivil? Nothing to do with crudeness and incivility, but something to do with the fact that he could have experience and abilities to be a good president. Better than a community organizer that has authored zero books, better than a peanut farmer who authored zero books, or as the best example, better than a dumbass, racist Texan who was picked as a Vice President by JFK.
Really? How about this:
quote: Those things aren't necessarily polite and "presidential", but many consider[d] them to be true. But comparing them to the politeness of past presidents isn't necessarily easy, since there wasn't all the recording and documenting technology that we have today. I was a kid in the mid sixties, and my grandfather, born in 1884, told me a few things about Theodore Roosevelt that now indicate to me that Trump isn't the first assertive president this country has ever had.
Trump was blatantly uncivil in his presidential announcement, not to mention boastful to the point of telling tall tales, and committing to many things he hasn't followed through on, like improving infrastructure and putting Social Security and Medicare on a sound financial basis. Trump has gotten many things done that he promised, the only reason he hasn't been able to do more is because the Democrat hate machine has been doing all it can to block him from accomplishing things that the country needs.
marc9000 writes: That's an easy one, because those past presidents weren't crudely and bluntly attacked by people who knew very little about them at the start of their campaigns yet, like Trump was. Can you say nothing true? Trump was easily the most known Republican candidate in 2016. He wrote The Art of the Deal. He had his name on real estate in prime locations. He was the star of The Apprentice that ran for years. He had a long public history derived from giving interviews to newspapers and on radio, taking out full page ads in newspapers, and tweeting. They didn't know what kind of president he would likely become. He was from New York, one of the most liberal areas of the country. He didn't exactly live an anti-evolution Christian life. He had his picture taken with the Clintons and other liberals, was involved in political financing that wasn't necessarily extreme conservative. These characteristics should have been liberal friendly, at least enough for them to give him much more of a chance to express who he wanted to be as president. He never got that chance - the hate that immediately sprang up when he announced his candidacy wasn't necessarily from a political view, it was from a personal view, largely jealousy.
You've just reinforced my point. Unlike Trump, other recent presidents possessed presidential demeanor. And unlike the news media, late night comedians, Democrat congresswomen, etc etc, those people / groups possessed a civilized demeanor. They started with childish taunts and laughter when he announced, then went nuts with crudeness when he won the election.
You claim he behaves this way because he's forced into it, but everyone else knows that that's just who he is, a rude, crude and dishonest real estate developer who's gone bankrupt multiple times, and who for these reasons is secretive in the extreme. He's even reluctant to pay his bills, even as president. He still hasn't paid bills for campaign and presidential visits to many cities, such as Burlington (VT), Lebanon (OH), Mesa (AZ), Erie (PA), Green Bay (WI), Spokane (WA), and on and on. Trump just skips town and ignores the bills, just as he always has. This looks like tabloid jargon to me, what's your source for this?
marc9000 writes: That was all I needed, to show actual quotes of employees at CNN, who clearly showed Zucker's objectives. The only way you could know if these employees' beliefs are correct is to check the news at CNN, which you haven't done, There are plenty of other ways I can see CNN's vendetta against Trump - their youtube videos that almost always seek to attack him, the antics of their reporters like Jim Acosta, the list is long. If you don't think there is a bias against Trump in the news media, then I have nothing more to say on that subject.
Your quote has a typo that isn't in the original ("found" instead of "founder"). Did you really type that quote in from scratch instead of just cut-n-pasting? Some web pages don't allow a highlight for a copy/paste. This one was doing something I'd never seen before, it would just let me highlight a few letters, or one word, then it would stop highlighting. I just decided to retype it and yes, I messed up one word. I didn't realize it was a big deal.
We're talking news and you're citing an opinion piece, but in any case, didn't you watch the video of Trump's announcement that Baghdadi had been killed? If you watch this I think you have to agree with the characterization: No time to watch this whole thing, but the first few minutes make me wonder what your point is. Was he not polite enough in how he referred to terrorists?
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1509 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
You could google "global warming" and find that your view is simply ignorant. So it's now "global warming" this week? I thought that was an old term, I thought it had been changed to "climate change". I guess it's interchangeable, depending on the politics.
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1509 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
A lot of news services carried Wednesday's open testimonies live, all of it (albeit cutting back to the studio during recesses). A guest today on the Dean Obeidallah Show (Sirius XM) talked about switching over to FOX News for their coverage. He reports that they were showing a video of a baby beluga whale while asking whether that baby beluga was a Russian spy. His report was that while FOX News did carry the opening statements, they selectively cut away during the actual testimony. All news outlets cut in and out of different stories as their scheduling / advertising time slots work in. At later times, Fox news showed a large amount of questioning periods by Republicans like Jim Jordan, all of which were completely cut out by ABC World News Tonight, while it showed detailed testimony of Ambassador Yovanovitch. Though I saw on Fox where she was asked if she had evidence of bribery, to which she answered "no". ABC didn't have time to show that part I guess.
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