Faith vs Facts Opinion Piece

I dispute the implication you are making that non believers need to give fundies a pass because of their beliefs. If they are wrong they are wrong and should be called out. If you deny factual evidence because of your belief you should be called out. If you spew hate and disinformation you should be called out. Facts dont change because of your beliefs or anyone else's beliefs.There is no exception to reality because of unevidenced, counter factual beliefs. I agree that trying to change fundie minds is mostly a waste of time. But that does not mean I and others should just roll over and let them spew hate and disinformation. We should and must continue to challenge their rejection of scientific evidence and their promotion of ignorance and hate.You can revel in your own ignorance but do not expect it to go unchallenged.

Again, why do you post links to sites and podcasts that you never summarize. I am never going to listen to a podcast you link to. Summarize it and tell us about the person making the presentation, but do not expect me to listen to it. I am not sure what your point is. Facts are not conclusive because they are the points of data we use to come to conclusions. But your conclusions cannot ignore or manipulate the facts. Are you saying that facts are changeable(wanted to use fungible, but not sure if the word actually works here how I mean it, anyone care to pipe in on that)? Here we come to the essence. Anytime a person in authority decides they need to proselytize there is a problem. You no longer present arguments here. All you do is preach. As an admin here that is a huge issue. You are incapable of separating the adminphat from the phat. If you want to continue to preach why don't you go to sites or places where preaching is appropriate? I will continue to respond when you think your preaching is an argument. This whole thread is an example of your utter failure as an admin.
You posted the link and text from an opinion article thinking it was some sort of deep meaningful representation of our forum. It is not. Then when you were called out that it was not in a discussion forum, you moved it it's current place. Kind of defeats the purpose of an admin, when that admin can propose and elevate their own proposals. How is anyone going to think you will treat them fairly? It is kind of like a Sikh walking into a courtroom that has the Ten commandments displayed. They have no confidence they will be treated fairly. Personal attacks. How unlike you. Way to keep up those admin standards. I get angry when you preach, when you use slurs and when you attack nonbelievers. I respond I do not instigate. If you think you can freely throw around slurs, I will call you out every time. Point out disinformation I have posted. Can you back this assertion? If you think I am posting bad info call me on it, I will back it with more data and facts(oh thats right facts are worthless to you), or retract. Wow! Just days after casting a homophobic slur you don't acknowledge your own hate speech
I find it interesting that you have acknowledged you are now full blown right wing fundie. Have you finally disabused yourself from the claim you are a moderate? But I don't get challenges, all I get is preaching.

But that is not what he said. That might have been what he meant but not what he said. I can only go with what he said. I think you are changing what he actually said into what you would expect a reasonable person to say. The statement he made was about the facts, not the conclusions reached by those facts. Agreed. Not sure Phat truly understands that.