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Topic: Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
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Phat
Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 220 of 308 (867193)
11-21-2019 8:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 217 by ringo
11-21-2019 10:53 AM
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Re: Christian fundamentalim is abhorrent
And by interpreting my analogy, you depict a very inclusive God who lets all sorts of carny barkers and seducing spirits run around His house and happily co-exist with Him, diluting His message and clouding the clear teaching that He wants His children and fellow house occupants to enjoy within that oasis. Heaven is not simply some giant social club where various demons can hawk their wares along with the Truth and purity it represents.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 221 of 308 (867194)
11-21-2019 8:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 219 by Taq
11-21-2019 12:15 PM
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Re: Pascal's wager is a stupid argument
Taq writes: The whole point is that you don't have any evidence that it is true. Before you buy the snake oil, shouldn't the salesman prove that you have an ailment that needs to be cured? Well, you have a point there. If you don't think you need to try out the Doctor I am recommending to my internet neighbors you obviously have the final say for your own welfare. Keep in mind, however, that I'm not attempting to sell you anything. All of my advice is free to accept, to consider, or to politely place in the recycle bin.
Russell's Teapot
had to look the old guy up.
quote:
Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell, OM FRS[65] (18 May 1872 — 2 February 1970) was a British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, writer, essayist, social critic, political activist, and Nobel laureate.[66][67] At various points in his life, Russell considered himself a liberal, a socialist and a pacifist,
Faith would love this guy! 
Wily old Brit, isn't he?  And I see he eagerly supported a world government. Fits the ideological views of many liberals here at the Forum. It doesn't surprise me that he advocated "evidence" as the only standard for belief--he was a mathematician, after all.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 222 of 308 (867195)
11-21-2019 8:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 218 by Theodoric
11-21-2019 11:42 AM
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Aztlan Credits You
Theodoric writes: So you think your god dude would rather someone think they are living a *** and not really believe, but pretend they believe? jar brought up CS Lewis Chronicles of Narnia argument earlier about how Aztlan(metaphorical God) will credit you for serving Him even if you are serving some other cause IF you are doing it in the representation of Him. In other words,, you liberals can go save the planet from greedy capitalists who claim to believe in God, all in the name of Greenpeace, and when everyone dies, God will credit the Christian Nationalist Hucksters with serving Tash and will credit the atheist tree huggers with serving Him. There. All better now?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Phat
Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Re: No argument?
How could I ever have made any argument? Its all belief. There is no objective evidence.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 227 of 308 (867200)
11-22-2019 2:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 226 by Phat
11-22-2019 1:54 AM
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Re: No argument?
Investors Business Daily writes: The dominant force in America and many other Western countries today is fear of the left. This is a result of the fact that the most dynamic religion of the past 100 years has been neither Christianity nor Islam. It has been leftism. Whoever does not recognize this does not understand the contemporary world. Leftism in its incarnations, such as Marxism, communism and socialism; expressed through egalitarianism, environmentalism and feminism; in its denigration of capitalism and Western civilization, especially America and Israel; in its supplanting of Christianity and Judaism; through its influence on Christianity and Judaism; in its celebration of race; and in its replacing of reason with romanticism has almost completely taken over the news and entertainment media and institutions of education.(...)Why are so many Democrats shocked when a Republican is elected president? Because, as they themselves say, they "don't know anyone" who voted for the Republican. The primary reason for this is the people in their life who voted for Donald Trump professional colleagues, and even friends and relatives are afraid to tell them. There are two reasons the left labels most conservatives and all Trump supporters "white supremacists," "neo-Nazis" and "racists." One is to defeat conservatives without having to defeat conservative ideas. The other is to instill fear: Speak out and you will suffer the consequences. Faith has these ideas and I had to search for someone who agrees with her online. Personally I'm not that extreme. God's will will be done on earth until the end comes. If He wishes to use the Left or the Right to bring us down so be it. Still, we will be judged on how we respond. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 230 of 308 (867239)
11-22-2019 3:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 229 by ringo
11-22-2019 10:45 AM
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Re: Christian fundamentalim is abhorrent
Phat writes: ... you depict a very inclusive God who lets all sorts of carny barkers and seducing spirits run around His house and happily co-exist with Him... ringo writes: And why not? Something tells me that you would be an overly permissive Father. Lets go with that analogy. Would you let your teenage daughter stay out all hours of the night? Would you let her smoke at age 13? Would you let her use marijuana? Would you let her stay the night with boyfriends? How inclusive would you be?
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Phat
Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Re: Christian fundamentalim is abhorrent
Im not talking about loving her or not...obviously you would love her. Im talking about disciplining her and setting some standards. We should expect no less from God. Many unbelievers cant get past the idea of an autocratic OT God who slaughters innocents. For believers, however, the God Who is (as we see Him, anyway) is a stern yet loving Father. He won't let her bring the boyfriend to stay the night, but He will not boot her out the door for making mistakes. Think of Heaven as the next home after this life and think of what a Father would consider when adopting kids. You don't just pick anyone. (Likely sounds too exclusive for you inclusivists)
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 235 of 308 (867252)
11-22-2019 4:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 232 by ringo
11-22-2019 4:09 PM
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Re: Christian fundamentalim is abhorrent
Theodoric writes: Guess it shows how you feel about those who do not have your beliefs. If we get as far as Heaven, there really won't be any differing beliefs at that point. Everyone will clearly see reality at that point as it is. The issue is the credentials required to stay in Heaven. But getting back to our teen analogy...
ringo writes: You could kick them out of the house, which seems to be what you're suggesting. In our analogy, they are not yet even IN the house. They (we) are being considered for adoption. quote:
ADOPTION In Rom 8:15, believers are said to have received "the Spirit of adoption," that is, the Holy Spirit who, given as the Firstfruits of all that is to be theirs, produces in them the realization of sonship and the attitude belonging to sons. In Gal 4:5 they are said to receive "the adoption of sons," i. e., sonship bestowed in distinction from a relationship consequent merely upon birth; here two contrasts are presented, (1) between the sonship of the believer and the unoriginated sonship of Christ, (2) between the freedom enjoyed by the believer and bondage, whether of Gentile natural condition, or of Israel under the Law. In Eph 1:5 they are said to have been foreordained unto "adoption as sons" through Jesus Christ, RV; the KJV, "adoption of children" is a mistranslation and misleading. God does not "adopt" believers as children; they are begotten as such by His Holy Spirit through faith. "Adoption" is a term involving the dignity of the relationship of believers as sons; it is not a putting into the family by spiritual birth, but a putting into the position of sons. In Rom 8:23 the "adoption" of the believer is set forth as still future, as it there includes the redemption of the body, when the living will be changed and those who have fallen asleep will be raised. In Rom 9:4 "adoption" is spoken of as belonging to Israel, in accordance with the statement in Ex 4:12, "Israel is My Son." Cf. Hos 11:1. Israel was brought into a special relation with God, a collective relationship, not enjoyed by other nations, Deut 14:1; Jer 31:9, etc.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
ringo writes: Most human parents try to be a good example - your God might want to try that. How was jesus not a good example? Certainly better than Chutulu or loki.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Phat
Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Re: Christian fundamentalim is abhorrent
To be fair, I have never had kids. So I apologize for any offense.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 266 of 308 (867328)
11-23-2019 1:39 PM
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Reply to: Message 265 by ringo
11-23-2019 12:01 PM
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Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
The tree was only "guarded" once they ate from the other tree. Clearly eternal life and "knowledge" did not go hand in hand.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.0
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Message 267 of 308 (867331)
11-23-2019 1:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 261 by jar
11-23-2019 11:43 AM
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Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Notice no mention of man becoming like satan, rather that man had become as one of us. The implication is clearly there. First off, if they truly were "as one of us" they would in fact have eternal life. The implication was that this particular critter was likely foreknown to disobey and eat the tree of knowledge before they were ready for it. Thus begins the long storied history of humans. Wars, famines, betrayals, greed, lusts, all of the dicey realities that knowledge has brought us. Granted we have discovered some new and useful things also, but I believe that this story will not end up successfully since by and large humans still reject God. Nowadays they claim He is a human invention of our minds. Brushing aside that reality will ultimately lead to our demise. And yes there are carny barksters and apologist hucksters, but that is not the default position of Biblical Christianity. Your view may seem more logical and likely to you on the surface, but you forget that we are indeed fallible and prone to error. had we listened to God from Day One it would not be that way. I will admit, however, that He foreknew this to happen. Perhaps He also foreknows that a sizeable proportion of you wont believe the stories sold by the CCoI. It too is foreknown.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 269 of 308 (867335)
11-23-2019 2:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 268 by jar
11-23-2019 1:55 PM
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Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
And you continue to market the God you create instead of the God that is actually described in the story. Indeed I do. I refuse to accept a God that is hesitant, unsure, and in need of correction by humans. To me, that simply places humans as their own judge and responsible fully for their own salvation and justification. And that I will not accept.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 283 of 308 (867414)
11-24-2019 3:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 275 by ringo
11-24-2019 1:14 PM
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Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
ringo writes: Eternal life was something to be obtained by eating from the Tree of Life. Thus it could not have been something they already had. OK, I'll go with your argument. But so what? God told them they would die. The snake told them they would not die. Did they die? And are humans now like God in that we know good and evil and we all are free to interpret what these terms each mean? You liberals certainly try and market the God you want. A nice touchy-feely God who accepts everybody as they are, requires no sanctification or surrender or change from them whatsoever but only expects that they work hard for the community like good little Marxists? Disgusting. Any replies to this post please put the religious-themed ones in one of the other threads. The only political point I make is that the Left interprets the words of Jesus as arguably Marxist. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 285 of 308 (867417)
11-24-2019 3:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 282 by jar
11-24-2019 2:46 PM
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Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3! or any evidence to support the topic
jar. ad nauseum writes: And as expected, Faith has still not provided any evidence to support the topic "Fear of the Left the driving force in the west today". *sigh*. OK, everybody jar has a point. Lets abandon this religious argument in this thread and leave it to be the political thread it was intended to be. Take quotes from here and put them in one of the other threads where the religious argument is happily burning away.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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Message 290 of 308 (867430)
11-24-2019 9:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 289 by jar
11-24-2019 6:49 PM
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Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
jar writes: It might be that earning enough to eat might be a driving force in the West today or staying healthy might be a driving force in the West today or being entertained might be a driving force in the West today or getting "Likes" might be a driving force in the West today but where is there ANY evidence that a fear of the left is anything but a delusional aberration? I think that much of the fear that the right-wing conservatives have is losing what they have. Conservative philosophy emphasizes lower taxes for the privileged class. They would much rather pass their gains on to their heirs than be forced(yes forced) to pay out higher taxes to support the poor impoverished masses. I think they are greedy, but I can see their point. Nobody should be forced to do anything like that. I recently read a book called Dark Age America. It is a chilling and realistic look at the future of humanity (as to what is likely) within the next several hundred years. If I was thinking of perpetuating my legacy and realize I may have to defend my modest gains against the hungry hordes, I too might be scared.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~" We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith
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