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Author Topic:   Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
jar
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Message 224 of 308 (867197)
11-21-2019 8:57 PM
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11-21-2019 8:46 PM


Re: Aztlan Credits You
Azlan is not metaphorically God. No "t" and it is Arabic for Lion. And Azlan is not a tame lion.
But there is no evidence that anything other than humans can save humans.

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Message 240 of 308 (867293)
11-23-2019 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 239 by Faith
11-23-2019 9:01 AM


There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
All that developed in us at the Fall, you know, when the snake told us we wouldn't die but be as gods when we ate the fruit we were told not to eat.
Have you actually ever read the Bible Faith?
There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3 and the God character in Genesis 2&3 said we did become like Gods and neither Adam or Eve died or even died some Spiritual Death.
Stop misrepresenting what is actually written in the Bible and marketing the made up story of your cult.
Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

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jar
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Message 242 of 308 (867297)
11-23-2019 10:39 AM
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11-23-2019 10:08 AM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
But it is explicit in the New Testament where Paul says it was sin that brought death into the world.
Yes, Paul is supposed to have said that; but he offered no evidence in support and it is absolutely clear and unequivocal that Death existed BEFORE Adam and Eve ate the fruit based on what is actually written in Genesis 2&3 as opposed to the fantasy that your cult tries to market.
Have you ever read the Bible Faith?
What was the second tree mentioned?
If Death did not already exist then that tree was simply another really stupid creation like the human eye and the missing padding on shins and elbows and putting the air channel and food channel together.
But again, please stop misrepresenting what is actually written in the Bible and do try to return to the topic, as silly as it is.

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jar
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Message 256 of 308 (867316)
11-23-2019 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 244 by Faith
11-23-2019 10:51 AM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
the Tree of Llfe refers to eternal llfe, not earthly llfe.
Yet another profitable con job but once again, simply not supported by what is written in the Genesis 2&3 story.
Faith writes:
That is why God had it guarded after the Fall, since eternal llfe in our sinful condition would make us llke Satan himself, and if we are mrely mortal we can be saved as Satan can't be.
And the snake-oil continues.
That is NOT why the Garden was guarded according to what is actually written in Genesis 2&3 and another creation of thye Apoligists to try to make the Bible fit the Go0d and Story they created.
And so far there has been no evidence presented to explain why people fear the left or that the fear of the left is a driving force in the west today.

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jar
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Message 261 of 308 (867322)
11-23-2019 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by Faith
11-23-2019 11:27 AM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
Doesn't it say the Tree of Llfe was guarded against us "Lest they take of the tree of llfe and llve forever?" Eternal llfe right there.
LOL
Once again you misrepresent what is actually written by quote mining and taking stuff out of context.
quote:
Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Notice no mention of man becoming like satan, rather that man had become as one of us.
True. the Apologists try hard to pervert the Bible and twist it to be the story THEY created but we can still check their spiel by actually reading what is written.

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jar
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Message 264 of 308 (867325)
11-23-2019 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by Faith
11-23-2019 11:46 AM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
And so you once again offer no support for your position.
Now is there any evidence that Fear of the Left the driving force in the west today beyond the rantings of the Alt-Right Apologists?

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jar
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Message 268 of 308 (867332)
11-23-2019 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Phat
11-23-2019 1:48 PM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Phat writes:
First off, if they truly were "as one of us" they would in fact have eternal life.
No Phat, once again you are simply misrepresenting what was actually written to try to make it fit into in Bible you created.
Phat writes:
Your view may seem more logical and likely to you on the surface, but you forget that we are indeed fallible and prone to error. had we listened to God from Day One it would not be that way.
Utter nonsense Phat and certainly not in what is actually written in the Genesis 2&3 fable.
Phat writes:
I will admit, however, that He foreknew this to happen.
And you continue to market the God you create instead of the God that is actually described in the story.
Phat writes:
Perhaps He also foreknows that a sizeable proportion of you wont believe the stories sold by the CCoI.
When the stories marketed by the CCoI do not correspond to what is actually written it would be foolish to believe them.

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jar
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Message 272 of 308 (867339)
11-23-2019 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Phat
11-23-2019 2:03 PM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Phat writes:
jar writes:
And you continue to market the God you create instead of the God that is actually described in the story.
Indeed I do. I refuse to accept a God that is hesitant, unsure, and in need of correction by humans. To me, that simply places humans as their own judge and responsible fully for their own salvation and justification. And that I will not accept.
Yet that is exactly what is written in the Bible Stories.
You worship the God you created and not what is described in many of the Bible stories.
And no one has yet shown any evidence that "Fear of the Left the driving force in the west today ".

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Message 273 of 308 (867340)
11-23-2019 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Faith
11-23-2019 2:16 PM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
They would have become llke Satan if they'd eaten of the Tree of Llfe in their condition as sinners, immortal and evll at the same time and without any hope of salvation.
Yes Faith, that is the story you and the Apologists make up, but is NOT what is written in Genesis 2&3.
And you still have offered no evidence that "Fear of the Left the driving force in the west today".

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jar
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Message 282 of 308 (867410)
11-24-2019 2:46 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by ringo
11-24-2019 2:18 PM


There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3! or any evidence to support the topic
Regardless of Faith's really silly most recent unsupported assertion, what is actually written and what has even been quoted in this and many other threads and what is actually written in Genesis 3 is...
quote:
Gen 3:22
22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
"lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life"
"lest " Meaning with the intention of preventing (something undesirable); to avoid the risk of.
Not with the intention of preventing (something undesirable); to avoid the risk of it happening again.
Everything in the story says that neither Adam nor Eve had eaten from the Tree of Life by the end of the story.
And as expected, Faith has still not provided any evidence to support the topic "Fear of the Left the driving force in the west today".
It seems Carny Apologists are not limited to Religious Fantasies.

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jar
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Message 287 of 308 (867427)
11-24-2019 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by Faith
11-24-2019 3:49 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
Prager presented no evidence, only unsupported assertions and nutjob fantasies.

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jar
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Message 289 of 308 (867429)
11-24-2019 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by Faith
11-24-2019 5:45 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
He presented no evidence Faith, just silly assertions and fantasy.
But he is not here so it is up to you to find some evidence that supports that Fear of the Left is the driving force in the west today.
We are as usual waiting.
AbE:
It might be that earning enough to eat might be a driving force in the West today or staying healthy might be a driving force in the West today or being entertained might be a driving force in the West today or getting "Likes" might be a driving force in the West today but where is there ANY evidence that a fear of the left is anything but a delusional aberration?
ANUDDERAbE:
In the US the latest figures I could find show 35% identify as Conservative; 35% as Moderate and 26% as Liberal.
Edited by jar, : see AbE:
Edited by jar, : see ANUDDERAbE:

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jar
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Message 297 of 308 (867453)
11-25-2019 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by Admin
11-25-2019 11:37 AM


Re: Proposed Change of Title
I'm still waiting for ANY evidence that might support the original thread topic.

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Message 299 of 308 (867456)
11-25-2019 12:33 PM
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11-25-2019 12:24 PM


Re: Proposed Change of Title
But Prager offered no evidence to support even that topic.

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jar
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Message 304 of 308 (867489)
11-26-2019 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 303 by Phat
11-26-2019 6:32 AM


Re: Climate Change Is Always A Hot Button Political Issue
Phat writes:
Climate Change Is Always A Hot Button Political Issue
No Phat, it is only an issue because of stupidity and greed.

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