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Author Topic:   Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
Faith 
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Message 286 of 308 (867418)
11-24-2019 3:49 PM
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11-24-2019 3:46 PM


BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
Prager's piece was an opinion piece but he gave tons and tons of desriptions of what he was talking about, which I recognized and all conservatives would recognize. So if jar or the llb/lfftists don't recognize them it's just because all they know is the Fake News sources.

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Message 287 of 308 (867427)
11-24-2019 5:13 PM
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11-24-2019 3:49 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
Prager presented no evidence, only unsupported assertions and nutjob fantasies.

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Message 288 of 308 (867428)
11-24-2019 5:45 PM
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11-24-2019 5:13 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
He presented descriptions of well known events.

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Message 289 of 308 (867429)
11-24-2019 6:49 PM
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11-24-2019 5:45 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
He presented no evidence Faith, just silly assertions and fantasy.
But he is not here so it is up to you to find some evidence that supports that Fear of the Left is the driving force in the west today.
We are as usual waiting.
AbE:
It might be that earning enough to eat might be a driving force in the West today or staying healthy might be a driving force in the West today or being entertained might be a driving force in the West today or getting "Likes" might be a driving force in the West today but where is there ANY evidence that a fear of the left is anything but a delusional aberration?
ANUDDERAbE:
In the US the latest figures I could find show 35% identify as Conservative; 35% as Moderate and 26% as Liberal.
Edited by jar, : see AbE:
Edited by jar, : see ANUDDERAbE:

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Message 290 of 308 (867430)
11-24-2019 9:41 PM
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11-24-2019 6:49 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
jar writes:
It might be that earning enough to eat might be a driving force in the West today or staying healthy might be a driving force in the West today or being entertained might be a driving force in the West today or getting "Likes" might be a driving force in the West today but where is there ANY evidence that a fear of the left is anything but a delusional aberration?
I think that much of the fear that the right-wing conservatives have is losing what they have. Conservative philosophy emphasizes lower taxes for the privileged class. They would much rather pass their gains on to their heirs than be forced(yes forced) to pay out higher taxes to support the poor impoverished masses. I think they are greedy, but I can see their point. Nobody should be forced to do anything like that.
I recently read a book called Dark Age America. It is a chilling and realistic look at the future of humanity (as to what is likely) within the next several hundred years. If I was thinking of perpetuating my legacy and realize I may have to defend my modest gains against the hungry hordes, I too might be scared.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 291 of 308 (867431)
11-25-2019 12:13 AM
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11-24-2019 3:49 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
Prager’s piece certainly did not give all the relevant facts. The long-running hate campaign from the Right - which you support - is a major factor. But then you don’t want the full facts to be known.

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Message 292 of 308 (867434)
11-25-2019 8:06 AM
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11-25-2019 12:13 AM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
... The long-running hate campaign from the Right - which you support - is a major factor. ...
Makes one wonder how long running/deep the Russian hacking campaign to divide the US has been going. Mind you the conspiracy right wingnuts are such easy targets ...
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Message 293 of 308 (867439)
11-25-2019 10:59 AM
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11-24-2019 3:42 PM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Phat writes:
The only political point I make is that the Left interprets the words of Jesus as arguably Marxist.
You keep saying "arguably" but you never make an argument. An assertion is not an argument.
I don't think you have a clue what Marxism is. You just use it as a swear-word. I have never, ever, in any way, shape or form advocated Marxism. I don't think I have ever made a single comment in favor of Marxism. Even if you did have an argument against Marxism, it would not be an argument against anything I have said.
Socialism is what Jesus taught.

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Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
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Message 294 of 308 (867440)
11-25-2019 11:01 AM
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11-24-2019 3:45 PM


Re: There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3!
Faith writes:
Oh they knew WHAT the knowledge of good and evll was, they did have basic intellectual knowledge...
The Bible says they didn't. That's why God had to explain the consequences to them - pain in childbirth, hating snakes, sweaty brows, etc.

"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
-- Rudyard Kipling

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Message 295 of 308 (867442)
11-25-2019 11:03 AM
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11-24-2019 9:41 PM


Re: BACK TO THE OP: Prager gave all the information needed
Phat writes:
If I was thinking of perpetuating my legacy and realize I may have to defend my modest gains against the hungry hordes, I too might be scared.
Think of how the hungry hordes must feel.

"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
-- Rudyard Kipling

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Message 296 of 308 (867447)
11-25-2019 11:37 AM


Proposed Change of Title
This topic has experienced considerable drift. Rather than closing the thread and beginning a new one I'd like to just change the title, maybe one something along he lines of, "The Source of Good and Evil." Other proposals welcome, but I will be changing the title soon.

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Message 297 of 308 (867453)
11-25-2019 12:10 PM
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11-25-2019 11:37 AM


Re: Proposed Change of Title
I'm still waiting for ANY evidence that might support the original thread topic.

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Message 298 of 308 (867454)
11-25-2019 12:24 PM
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Re: Proposed Change of Title
Lets call it Good & Evil According to Prager.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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Message 299 of 308 (867456)
11-25-2019 12:33 PM
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Re: Proposed Change of Title
But Prager offered no evidence to support even that topic.

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Message 300 of 308 (867457)
11-25-2019 12:43 PM
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11-25-2019 12:33 PM


Re: Proposed Change of Title
OK lets call it Good & Evil In Politics

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction .
"~Thugpreacha
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.
? R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

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