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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Your word against mine bucko.
It's on record in many places that I'm right. Bloomberg - Are you a robot?:
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Politico challenges Politico's reporting on Ukraine's 2016 pro-Hillary efforts (a strongly right-wing source)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Golly Gosh, isn't that a surprise. They'll even trash their own if it doesn't give the currently accepted political position. Golly golly gosharoony.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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Yes it is the Democrats trying to destroy the Repubic and just about succeeding already.... So do you believe that the Democrats and "the Left" should be destroyed first? Do you believe the Republicans should do anything and everything to gain and maintain power, even use methods that are contrary to ordinary small-d democratic norms?
Added by edit: Having just reread this post, I feel I should add a clarification: I'm not trying to put words into your mouth. I'm curious about how dangerous you think the Left is and what extraordinary measures you think the Republicans are justified taking. Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.For this generation of far-right nationalists, religion is not a question of ethical conduct; it is purely about identity and peoplehood. -- Jan-Werner Müller
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think the Lfft is extremely dangerous but I don't trust the Republicans either. A lot of them don't have much of a clue about what's really going on. I'm not calling for any drastic measures, I just write what I write hoping against hope it might wake some people up. I do wish that the moderates among the Democrats might wake up to what's going on in their prrty and use normal legal means to put the brakes on. Otherwise I would hope the trvth would come out above the Fake News somehow but that's a tall order when it's clear that the Lfft has a deathgrip on the media, or it's the Lfftist media that have the death grip on the party, not clear sometimes. But no I'm not calling for drastic measures. Actually if the Lfft does pull off the coup they've been working at since Trump took office, but really before that back a few decades, the consequences for the country will be so horrendous even people like you might wake up, or there might be a civil war. Or maybe not. Maybe we'll just go down with Venezuela and never rise again.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Have you eve3r considered addressing the issues rather than posting meaningless drivel?
Of course not. If you ever came in contact with reality you could be seriously injured.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Democrats are using normal legal means to oppose Trump.
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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JonF writes: The Biden investigation was closed a year before Joe Biden and many other governments called for the prosecutor's ouster because he wasn't doing any investigating. Did you mean to say, "The Burisma investigation was closed..." under prosecutor Shokin's watch? There was also an investigation into the oligarch founder of Burisma, Mykola Zlochevsky, that stalled under Shokin. These were just a couple factors that led the U.S. and the EU to pressure the Ukraine to remove Shokin. The precipitating event seems to have been Shokin's refusal to provide necessary documentation about a Ukrainian money laundering case in the UK. For lack of evidence the UK was eventually forced to free up the sequestered funds. --Percy
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1045 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
They got their aid without any quid pro quo of any sort. And Obama didn't give them any. The US has been providing substantial aid to Ukraine since the Russian seizure of Crimea. What changed under Trump was the decision to give them guns - the Obama administration thought it would be too provocative to Russia and would escalate the conflict further to provide Ukraine with weaponry. That didn't mean they gave nothing - Trump dismissed the aid provided under Obama as 'blankets', but it included (for examples) radar systems used to detect incoming enemy fire. Trump did not decide to give more aid, he simply decided that that money Congress had already voted to provide under Obama could also be used to buy missiles.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Missiles which are stored unused hundreds of miles from the front lines, as required by the agreement,.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
So it isn't a trial, so what. Depriving Trump of the opportunity to confront his accuser is just ...barbarian. ... Complain to the GOP -- they set up the rules for House Hearings. Judge Napolitano: As frustrating as it is, Schiff is following the rules | On Air Videos | Fox News
... Why hould Trump testify at all? ... Because he could swear under oath about what he did. Because he could prove his innocence ... if he is innocent ... Hillary testified under oath for the Bengazi hearing conducted on the same rules by the GOP.
... And the more the "witnesses" talk the more obvious that ... ... he is guilty becomes. He had means, motive and opportunity. It is entirely within his standard bullying behavior.
... But protesting this "whistleblower" is just to project Schiff and those who put him up to it, and keep the truth about his anti-Trump connections from coming out. And yet everything the whistleblower said has been corroborated by the non-partisan staff that had to deal with the issue. Fox News Judge Says Evidence for Impeachment 'Overwhelming'
If you've been following the hearings, and I've only heard bits and pieces of it myelf, but you mmight have heard one of the Republicans state something about how the whistleblower's identity is well known and that he knows Schiff knows his identity too and has been lying when he says he doesn't. That's some evidence. His identity is known to everybody, I know it too. Curiously I followed the whole thing live, not bits and pieces filtered by some biased source or another. The people saying this were Jordan and Nunes. These claims have not been verified. Again, though, it does not matter who the whistleblower is because the issues raised have been verified -- what he said is/was true.
They got their aid without any quid pro quo of any sort. And Obama didn't give them any. The aid package in question was delayed by Trump Stalled Ukraine military aid concerned members of Congress for months | CNN Politics The president of Ukraine scheduled an interview/appearance on CNN The whistleblower complaint was made public The House announces an investigation Two days later the aid was delivered Then the CNN interview/appearance was cancelled Trump got caught and delivered the aid so it would not be evidence of quid pro quo ... ... but it remains a fact that that is what he tried to do. and that remains a felony. We also now see that he has done similar extortion on South Korea ... https://www.theamericanconservative.com/...xtortion-doctrine It's like he thinks this is how diplomacy is done
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
A lot of them [the Republicans] don't have much of a clue about what's really going on. Boy, ain't that the truth!
I'm not calling for any drastic measures.... Fair enough. I'm still kind of curious, though, what you think about - just to pick one example that has been discussed on this board - North Carolina Republicans' attempt to extreme gerrymand their election districts. Do you think it's perfectly acceptable behavior for any majority party? Do you think it violates basic democratic norms but is necessary to combat evil Leftists? Do you think that it's inexcusably poor behavior for anyone to do regardless of reason? Or do you have another take altogether?
Actually if the Left does pull off the coup they've been working at since Trump took office.... What coup? Surely not the impeachment? Even if the Senate were to remove Trump from office, Pence would be President, not some Leftist.For this generation of far-right nationalists, religion is not a question of ethical conduct; it is purely about identity and peoplehood. -- Jan-Werner Müller
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Missiles which are stored unused hundreds of miles from the front lines, as required by the agreement,. But which are capable of utterly destroying the Russian tanks from those locations. I have this from a marine who was deployed at the front. Thus they are a deterrent from Russia using those tanks to attack the Ukranian army. They can't escalate the conflict, but they can deter it. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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But which are capable of utterly destroying the Russian tanks from those locations
not possible, Javelins are man portable anti-tank weapons they have a max range of 3 miles.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Javelins have a range of 2500 meters, not hundreds of miles.
They could be deployed fairly quickly, and they are an anti-tank deterrent. Somewhere I read that the Russians haven't used tanks in Ukraine since 2015 but I can't find it or confirm it.
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