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Message 67 of 308 (866516)
11-12-2019 11:50 AM
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11-12-2019 11:39 AM


Re: Irony
Because it's reality and puts your beloved alt-reich wing in a bad light showing it to be, as some of us have been saying all along, much worse than your stilted view of the left.

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Message 182 of 308 (867071)
11-19-2019 10:09 PM
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11-19-2019 9:06 PM


Re: Christian liberalism is an aberration
What it shows, M'Lady, is how universally evil religion is.

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Message 184 of 308 (867076)
11-19-2019 11:17 PM
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11-19-2019 10:48 PM


Re: Christian liberalism is an aberration
That is what I said. There is a universal evil and we call it religion.
The rest of your message is fantasy attempting to justify your snake oil remedy to the evil your creeds create.
I too would likely think it all a made-up story had I not gotten saved in 1993.
May you soon awake from this long nightmare with your intellect intact.

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Message 211 of 308 (867166)
11-21-2019 8:23 AM
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11-20-2019 9:40 PM


Cosmic Tyrant
God is as likely as not.
Not quite. Your god is as likely as Zeus and Thor and Horus. Your god is as likely as the four of them living together in a small one-bedroom apartment in downtown Dallas where they arm wrestle each other to determine who has to pay the rent this month. In other words, not very likely at all.
Or are you one of those progressive thinkers that believs humans are just evoloving animals with a developing mind? I argue that there is ample evidence that we are by nature selfish, competitive, and greedy.
You say this like these are mutually exclusive ideas. Do you really think evolution is any impediment to selfishness, competitiveness or greed? Or to love, altruism and evil? Know that evolution is the creator of all things in the human condition, of all things in all life on this planet and most probably beyond. Physics is the alpha and the omega. Evolution is its creation and we are evolution's creation.
why on earth is that type of a hypothetical surrender a bad thing?
Because it is demonstrably false. That is all that is necessary to reject the idea.
But further, because it is fantasy masquerading as TruthSM. And because it is enforced through the use of blind faith and existential threat. It is manipulated by evil for the purpose of evil. From collection plate to prosperity gospel, from charlatans selling holy water to ministers’ admonitions against them and their ways, religion is the excuse and so many times the motivation for so much of the evil we perpetrate upon ourselves.
As has been pointed out already, humans are evil enough without the manipulations and the thousand fold increase your religions perpetrate.
If it did turn out to be real, what harm could it cause?
Are you serious? To be puppet to an evil blood-thirsty cosmic despot? No harm?
If it turned out to be real ... have you seen the disease, the depraved and morbid conditions of life? And you would pray to such a creator? There could never be anything more evil, more despicable, more loathsome than some cosmic tyrant that would deliberately create such a world as this then torture its creation for all eternity for *any* reason let alone its own demonic apotheosis. You venerate and pray to this? Disgusting.
There is great harm in the very idea of such a thing let alone its purported reality.
You guys always always bring up evidence, as if evidence is the only human standard to be trusted.
Lots of evidence. Copious amounts of evidence. Copious amounts of evidence from multiple disparate sources.
Yes, that is the *ONLY* standard. All else fails and is rejected. Bring it or go home.
Edited by AZPaul3, : subtitle

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Message 246 of 308 (867302)
11-23-2019 10:52 AM
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11-23-2019 9:01 AM


Re: Cosmic Tyrant an invention of atheists
All gods are local and each is recognized as universal by its own adherents. Your puny little local monkey of a god is no exception though with yours you portray it as being more violent and capricious than the others. Abraham and all the priests that followed him through the millennia were Jim Jones / David Koresh type psychopaths and the end product reflects the poison of their minds.
You say that all disease, greed, murder and all other evil came from this fall. In your cult who created this world? Who created the capacity for the evil we see in life all around us today? Who made an idyllic world of beauty and pleasure only to take it all away because someone ate a piece of god damned fruit! Who does your cult say has infinite love and infinite forgiveness yet threw his beloved creation from idyllic Eden into a world of disease and bloodshed and all the depraved and morbid conditions we know as life? Who does your cult say has infinite love and infinite forgiveness yet will mercilessly torture his beloved creation for all eternity because they offend his ego?
As with Thug, you believe such a cosmic tyrant exists? You praise, venerate, pray to and love such a monster? Willingly?
Talking snake my ass! What the hell is the matter with you people?
Sorry, M’Love. You hit a hot button.

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Message 301 of 308 (867458)
11-25-2019 12:50 PM
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11-25-2019 11:37 AM


Re: Proposed Change of Title
How about calling it "More Crazy Arguments About Religious and Political Fantasies."

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Message 305 of 308 (867494)
11-26-2019 8:59 AM


You're both right.
Stupidity and greed have made climate change the political hot button that it is today.
Unfortunately between stupidity/greed and political awareness it is stupidity/greed that is winning.
We're boned.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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AZPaul3
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Message 308 of 308 (867514)
11-26-2019 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by Chiroptera
11-26-2019 11:39 AM


Suicide watch: watching a body twitch at the end of a noose oblivious to the stifled grunts for help.

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