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Message 4 of 43 (867743)
12-02-2019 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by RAZD
12-02-2019 2:03 PM


Re: the conclusion
That is a bunch of weasel words with no legal standing whatever. They were unable to prove obstruction of justice (or any involvement with Russia to affect the election) and what that means legally is that he is not guilty and what THAT means in plain English is that he is exonerated.

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Message 6 of 43 (867745)
12-02-2019 3:00 PM
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12-02-2019 2:54 PM


Re: the conclusion
Don't you get disgusted with all those weasel words they pile one on top of another?

If they can't charge him, THEN HE'S NOT GUILTY AND IF HE'S NOT GUILTY THEN HE'S EXONERATED.


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Message 9 of 43 (867750)
12-02-2019 5:00 PM
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12-02-2019 3:38 PM


Re: the conclusion
Weasel words galore. This is contrary to any other legal/judicial proceeding ever done in the US, trying to pretend he's still guilty wh4en you have nothing at all to prove it, nothing at all to charge him with. It's all a big fake. Not charging him IS finding him innocent. They didn't have the evidence to charge him, it's over, he's exonerated. I guess if enough of those who hate him just keep saying it over and over it will become true anyway though, won't it?

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Message 10 of 43 (867751)
12-02-2019 5:14 PM
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12-02-2019 3:07 PM


Re: the conclusion
If what you say is true there was never any reason for an investigation at all since the whole point would have been to find something to charge him with or find nothing. Starr found crimes to charge Clinton with. That's the normal outcome of such an investigation. Or finding nothing. In Trump's case nothing was found, he's innocent, he's not guilty, he's exonerated, there is nothing to charge him with, it's only wishful thinking that keeps this charade alive.

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Message 16 of 43 (867761)
12-02-2019 6:21 PM
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12-02-2019 6:05 PM


Re: the conclusion
The story keeps changing. If they indicted Russians that has nothing to do with Trump but it's always been about getting Trump one way or another. They don't even really need a reason, they're going to get him for anything they can dream up.

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Message 19 of 43 (867764)
12-02-2019 7:24 PM
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12-02-2019 6:48 PM


Re: the conclusion
Yes.

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Message 20 of 43 (867765)
12-02-2019 7:33 PM
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12-02-2019 6:48 PM


Re: the conclusion
Trump has committed no transgressions, they've all been invented by his enemies. They don't like him, they object to his style and they make that into criminal activities which they are not. Yes it is all dreamed up. Yes, in an investigative report like the Mueller report which existed for the sole purpose of discovering if there was any crimtinal activity on Trump's part, no indictment is exoneration.

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Message 23 of 43 (867768)
12-02-2019 8:03 PM
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12-02-2019 7:52 PM


Re: the conclusion
I'm not the one lying. Everybody on my side knows this, it's only those on the left who persist in believing a lie. Some are lying, most just believe them.

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Message 25 of 43 (867770)
12-02-2019 8:13 PM
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12-02-2019 7:51 PM


Re: the conclusion
He has been pretty dumb about trusting the wrong people, letting traitors remain in the White House among other things.

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Message 27 of 43 (867776)
12-02-2019 10:19 PM
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12-02-2019 8:30 PM


Re: Moderator On Duty
Wondering: I discovered earlier that I'm not allowed to edit messages any more. Is that connected with taking away words?

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Message 28 of 43 (867777)
12-02-2019 10:29 PM
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12-02-2019 8:30 PM


Re: Moderator On Duty
Could you explain what you mean by "persisting in posting messages with asterisks?" Usually the words are quite neutral in themselves and may be necessary to expressing something neutral and simple. Are you saying we can't use them this way after you've taken away words for how they were used somewhere else? I'm serious, I'm having a problem understanding this. I usually don't know what post the word first occurred in you found to be offensive.

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Message 36 of 43 (867812)
12-03-2019 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by jar
12-03-2019 10:21 AM


Re: On tomorrow and tomorrow
Of course he would step down, he honors the rule of law even if that law is evil as such an impeachment would be. Accept it as fair. no of course not, not in the sense of treating it as righteous and honest. He'd probably send out a storm of tweets. Because it wouldn't be fair and honest, it would be merely the result of the endless invented excuses to get him out of office that the lerft has concocted and lied about for over three years now.

The Senate is certain not to impeach because they are sane compared to the House, but if they did yes he would leave and Pence wouldn't have to do anything. They would shake hands and exchange woeful looks over the state of the country that it should come to this but resist it, no, of course not.


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Message 40 of 43 (867827)
12-03-2019 5:17 PM
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12-03-2019 4:47 PM


Re: On Trump leaving according to fantasy
Your opinion about Trump's use of his money is probably not legally correct. I'd want to wait and see a legal decision about these things before coming to any conclusion.

Clinton's impeachment rested on actual felonies. I think Nixon's also did but I'd have to review it. Trump's absolutely definitely does not.

You again accuse Trump and again I answer that you are calling criminal what is not, what is merely a style you don't like. That's what most, no probably all, of the allegations against Trump have been.

The hearings to date have be4en a travesty. Hearsay upon hearsay accepted as evidence, emotion in the place of facts, Presidentially correct decisions treated as criminal, Schiff disallowing Republican response, a complete lack of due process for the defendant. It's a travesty of justice, a violation of every principle that made America great.

Trump has increased employment and reduced unemployment enormously, meaning he's improved the economy enormously, that Obama nearly destroyed with his policies, having millions on food stamps and so on. All that is improved under Trump. He's made tons of other improvements according to the people I hear every day but I dobn't trust myself to describe them properly.


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