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DrJones*
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Message 408 of 670 (868127)
12-07-2019 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 401 by Percy
12-07-2019 9:13 AM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
So does a guy trying to make it into comedy on open mic night by doing his terrorist routine. As he walks past the bars on the way to his gig an unrelated skirmish breaks out, someone screams "suicide vest," he's attacked and attempts to defend himself, he's lying on the ground and passersby are being pulled off him while policemen point their guns, and the next thing you know he's dead.
natural selection at work.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
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DrJones*
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Message 429 of 670 (868388)
12-11-2019 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 428 by Percy
12-11-2019 2:19 PM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
For those police who have guns I'm in favor of including policies, procedures and training for their non-lethal use
there is no non-lethal use for guns in a police situation, if the situation has escalated to where you need to use a gun it should be to kill.
edit a couple hours after the fact: also if you widen the criteria for acceptable use of a firearm you're going to get more use of a firearm with more deaths.
Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 438 of 670 (868410)
12-11-2019 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 436 by Percy
12-11-2019 8:07 PM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
I would like to narrow the criteria but widen the options.
so after all the railing against trigger happy police you actually want them to use their guns more? cause that's what you're going to get if you allow firearms to be used in a non-lethal manner.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 445 of 670 (868438)
12-12-2019 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 444 by Percy
12-12-2019 9:44 AM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
then when I respond that I actually want to narrow the criteria you say that that, too, will cause increased use of firearms by police.
if you allow cops to shoot to wound you're going to get more shootings.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 449 of 670 (868447)
12-12-2019 1:13 PM
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12-12-2019 12:49 PM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
Are you right? If so, why?
am i right? who knows? this is all hypothetical musing on our parts. It makes sense to me that if you give cops greater latitude in the use of their firearm they're going to use their firearms more.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 465 of 670 (868584)
12-14-2019 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 462 by Percy
12-14-2019 5:28 PM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
How do you justify killing this man?
he attacked multiple people and was wearing a suicide vest, he was an threat to the lives and safety of others.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Joined: 08-19-2004
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Message 472 of 670 (868647)
12-15-2019 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 471 by Percy
12-15-2019 9:05 PM


Re: Unarmed Police Does Work
And the police could not possibly have believed he was wearing a suicide vest else they would not have shot him in the chest and abdomen.
or they could have believed that he was and shot anyways.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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