Testing The Christian Apologists

What's wrong with that? Did God give you a brain just to fill up the parking space by the door? It prevents me from spewing the bullshit that you do? What's wrong with that? And you no longer believe in Santa Claus. What's wrong with that? Freedom from lies and stupidity? What's wrong with that?

But we do have evidence. "By their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthew 7:16-20)
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. (Galatians 5:22-23)Where's your meekness?

Dust is physical. Ribs are physical. Trees are physical. Food is physical. Feuding with snakes is physical. Pain in childbirth is physical. Sweating to grow food is physical. If there was anything in Genesis 2-3 pointing to "spiritual" death, it should have been easy to point it out. Nobody did.

So you're wiser than the people who wrote the Book? And you're nauseatingly repetitive in denying that the book says what it says. if you can't understand a simple tautology, why would anybody think you're wiser than the authors who wrote what they wrote? But when? When will you actually argue a point instead of just asserting opinions? As long as you continue to scoff at critical thinking, you have no claim to being wise.And until you actually present an apologist argument, we have no reason to think you even understand them. So the truth doesn't matter to you at all. All that matters is what you want to hear.

Not really. Most of the Biblical references to meekness seem to be about interpersonal relationships, e.g.:

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Titus 3:1-2 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

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It may be submission to God that causes it but it is demonstrated "unto all men".

You may know more about driving cars and operating computers but what makes you think you know more about God? So there you go. What's your advantage in knowing that God? Your disadvantage is that you're encumbered by the nonsense that the apologists make up. In other words, you'll make it all up to suit yourself. If you cling to your beliefs contrary to the evidence, you are certainly delusional. That's what the definition of delusion is.

But you'll gladly gloat about being "wiser" than us.

You didn't answer the question. I asked, "... what makes you think you know more about God?" Why do you know more than the ancient goat-herders who wrote about God lying? Why is your perspective, cluttered as it is by books and apologetics, better than theirs?

No you were not. Try to keep track of your own posts, at least. You used the word "you" specifically:

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None of us are worthy to discipline you. Message 520

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in reply to Theodoric saying:

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Do you think believers should be able to punish nonbelievers? Message 517

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And you need to demonstrate that you have learned by repeating the argument in your own words.

You're halfway there.

Ironically, you portray God as the same petty tyrant that you say He isn't. Why would He be FORCED to act against us? If He is so far beyond our understanding, why would He even notice us?

Yes, we know you believe in a puny God who can only act within strict restraints.

The story needs no marketing. It says what it says. No, not blasphemy. Your own Book might contradict what your apologist idols are telling you but reading the Book as written is not blasphemy by any definition of the word. So Titus disagrees with Genesis. Why do you choose to believe Titus? And why do you choose to believe in a limited god who can't do things? On the contrary, I have said flat out that your quote does contradict another quote (not by "my insistence at all). Wake up and smell the coffee. The Bible does have contradictions. I couldn't care less about descriptions of somebody's belief. If you have an argument, make it. I'm saying that every theologian who refuses to see the contradictions is dishonest. I stand on the Bible. You stand on apologists. There is no "want". I don't care what the Bible says about God any more than I care what Treasure Island says about long John Silver. It says what it says and an honest person has to accept what it says. There is no need to trash that idea. It's an untenable position already. On the contrary, you're the one who is trying to spread lies about the Bible. We're talking about a character in a book here. If there is a god outside the book, that's a separate issue. I accuse Christians of denying the message of the book, not just ignoring it. Who should you believe? The guy on the infomercial who is trying to sell you a product (i.e. the professional who makes his living by selling you stuff)? Or the consumer reports who warn you that the product will burst into flames?

You did say it. In Message 514, I asked, "So you're wiser than the people who wrote the Book?" and in Message 516 you replied, "In some ways yes. I know more about reality than they do." And presumably, you include God as part of reality. And the cultural ideas about God in the past two thousand years have evolved to what you believe. What's the difference?