Did the Flood really happen?

Tell us where the errors are.Sedimentary rock - Wikipedia

It's happening today on the bottoms of the oceans and seas and lakes.Foraminifera, for example, grow in the summer, die, and their tests (shells) fall to the bottoms, along with other debris, and these are then covered by silt as dust falls on the oceans and seas and lakes, gradually covering the tests and other debris. Day by day, year by year, decade by decade, millennium by millennium ...See Marine snow - WikipediaThere is nothing that stops this from happening, Faith, nothing.Don't worry, I know what your response will be. You will be wrong.EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : .

None of that could possibly create the geological column.

Like I predicted, wrong.Building new layers is occurring now and has been since the beginning of time.Your weird non-scientific definition/use of geological column not withstanding.Enjoy

Oh I don't deny that layers are forming in the oceans, but they couldn't ever look like the geo column, not to mention that changing locations is a huge deception. You are all kidding yourselves.

And there’s deposition on the shoreline and in the rivers and on their flood plains and in the deserts and in places where the wind carries loess.To look at one particular example of deposition and say that it can’t account for the geological column is to refuse to look at the whole picture.

But it is not impossible Faith and it is what happens. But it happens slowly over millions of years. And it's why when we do find a fossil we also find the evidence of what the environment was like at the time the critter died.

Sorry, too subtle.Yes, it has. For years and years.--Percy

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... and lakes and ponds and marshes and meadows etc etc etc ... and what does this "geo column" you speak of look like? ... and what is this straw man that you talk about now? What ever in the world do you mean by "changing locations?"Curiously I don't know of any person or text, etc., that says that geological columns get up and walk about. Or you are criticizing a weird/false concept of what the "geological column" means (as we have discussed before).

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geologic column noun

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Definition of geologic column

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1 : a columnar diagram that shows the rock formations of a locality or region and that is arranged to indicate their relations to the subdivisions of geologic time.

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2 : the sequence of rock formations in a geologic column

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The first is the usual definition, where these columns are site specific. They can be different in different places. What links them together is their comparable ages of the different layers at each site. These ages are determined by different techniques depending on the source material.We also know from the law of superposition that deeper layers are older than higher layers, so a layer that has no datable information can be placed between the layer over and the layer under it.Enjoy

Geo column not confined to disparate bodies of water, it extends over thousands of square miles straight and flat, no shape of curved bottoms of bodies of water. I shouldn't have to describe this, your denial ought to offend even you. Different sediments in different places but no signs of the shapes of lake bottoms or river bottoms etc. There is no comparison whatever between the geological column which is a stack of flat mostly separated sediments that is found all over the world and not in bodies of water but everywhere. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Really Faith.Has anyone ever mentioned the Green River Varves to you?They are classic examples of what a lake bottom looks like.

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Geo column not confined to disparate bodies of water, it extends over thousands of square miles straight and flat, no shape of curved bottoms of bodies of water. I

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Really ?

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I shouldn't have to describe this, your denial ought to offend even you.

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Why should we invent the things you want us to believe, and why should we be offended by the fact we don’t?

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Different sediments in different places but no signs of the shapes of lake bottoms or river bottoms etc.

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You’ve been shown examples of river bottoms, and I doubt you’d know what a buried and lithified lake bottom should look like.

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There is no comparison whatever between the geological column which is a stack of flat mostly separated sediments that is found all over the world and not in bodies of water but everywhere.

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Except for the comparisons actually made. Including these in this thread,Really Faith, we do not have any duty to pretend you’re right. If you want to look silly that’s your problem. I’d rather stick to the truth.

You do realize that the geological column is not in itself a physical thing. It is an intellectual construct, used to describe the layers of rocks at any given point on earth; layers that form part of the geological column in one location can differ from layers that form part of the geological column in another location, covering the same geological time era. Let me introduce you to Lake Bonneville:

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Lake Bonneville, prehistoric lake, formed about 30,000 years ago (late in the Pleistocene Epoch), that at high water covered an estimated 20,000 square miles (52,000 square km), embracing much of what is now the western half of Utah and parts of Nevada and Idaho in the United States. Surviving remnants are the freshwater Utah Lake and the saline Great Salt and Sevier Dry lakes. Deposits from its tributaries created deltas and canyon mouths where all of Utah’s principal cities have been built and where most of the state’s irrigable land is found. The Great Salt Lake in the northwestern part of the Lake Bonneville region is today the site of major chemical industries that use its brines to produce potassium sulfate and sodium sulfate as well as salt. To the southwest is the Great Salt Lake Desert, covering about 4,000 square miles (10,360 square km) and including the Bonneville Salt Flats, famous for land-speed racing.

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Bonneville, Lake
Great Salt Lake Desert, once part of Lake Bonneville, northwestern Utah.
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This article was most recently revised and updated by Amy Tikkanen, Corrections Manager.

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Looks pretty flat to me, and it is what remains of Bonneville Lake, but there is more ...

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Lake Bonneville was a prehistoric pluvial lake that covered much of the eastern part of North America's Great Basin region. Most of the territory it covered was in present-day Utah, though parts of the lake extended into present-day Idaho and Nevada. (Its counterpart Lake Lahontan occupied much of northwestern Nevada while extending into California and Oregon.) Lake Bonneville existed until about 14,500 years ago, when a large portion of the lake was released through the Red Rock Pass in Idaho. Following the Bonneville flood, as the release is now known, the lake receded to a level called the Provo Level. Many of the unique geological characteristics of the Great Basin are due to the effects of the lake.

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At more than 1,000 ft (300 m) deep[1] and more than 19,691 square miles (51,000 km2)[2] in area, the lake was nearly as extensive as Lake Michigan and significantly deeper.[3] With the change in climate, the lake began drying up, leaving Great Salt Lake, Utah Lake, Sevier Lake, Rush Lake, and Little Salt Lake as remnants.[3]

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Geologic history
Like most, if not all, of the ice age pluvial lakes of the American West, Lake Bonneville was a result of the combination of lower temperatures, decreased evaporation, and higher precipitation that then prevailed in the region, perhaps because of a more southerly jet stream than today's.[5] The lake was probably not a singular entity either; geologic evidence suggests that it may have evaporated and reformed as many as 28 times in the last 800,000 years.[6]

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Great Salt Lake, Utah Lake, and Sevier Lake are the largest remnants of the original Lake Bonneville. Several levels of the old shorelines are still visible above Salt Lake City, along the Wasatch Front and elsewhere. The appearance of the shorelines is that of a shelf or bench protruding from the mountainside, well above the valley floor. Four main shorelines are associated with the fluctuating levels of the ancient lake. The Stansbury, Bonneville, Provo and Gilbert shorelines each mark a time when lake level remained constant long enough to deposit massive accumulations of sand and gravel.

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There's those mature wave cut shorelines again ... funny how they crop up ... here we have not one, not two, but four main mature ancient shorelines as well as other lesser developed shorelines.Curious how those shorelines formed in the mountainsides if the mountains were raised magically after the imaginary flood.Curious too how the lake formed, evaporated, formed, evaporated, etc as many as 28 times.But wait ... there's still more ...

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The Bonneville Salt Flats is a densely packed salt pan in Tooele County in northwestern Utah. The area is a remnant of the Pleistocene Lake Bonneville and is the largest of many salt flats located west of the Great Salt Lake. The property is public land managed by the Bureau of Land Management and is known for land speed records at the "Bonneville Speedway". Access to the flats is open to the public.

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Bonneville Salt Flats during the winter has about 1 inch of water on it. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Winter_at_Bonneville_Salt_Flats.jpg/1280px-Winter_at_Bonneville_Salt_Flats.jpg

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Area 40 sq mi (100 km2)[1]

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One inch deep over that much area is pretty darn flat Faith. AND I can see several horizontal lines etched into the hillsides at the edges of this winter lake -- the evidence of past wave cut shorelines.There is no current outlet to this low area, so all runoff fills the flats in the winter and evaporates during the summer, creating flat layers of deposition, year after year. This is similar to the geological history of the Green River varves I've mentioned before (6 million varve couplet layers, light and dark). What you imagine is not what is real, and I have no obligation to recognize, let alone deny, imaginary constructs that don't match reality.Especially when the evidence from areas like the Bonneville Flats and the Green River Formation show exactly how such layers form over time. The geological column in these two relatively near areas are different but each have layers from corresponding geological time eras. Again, your imaginary construct does not match the geological reality. There is no single sedimentary layer that exists world wide. The actual geological columns for all these widely distant areas are composed of layers, yes, with layers of corresponding geological time eras, but composed of different sediments, just as the ones from the Bonneville Flats differ in details from those of the Green River Formation.It's the details Faith that show the difference between actual geological evidence and your imaginary construct.The details matter.Enjoy