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jar
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Message 1485 of 2370 (869301)
12-28-2019 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1484 by PaulK
12-28-2019 12:20 AM


Re: No lake or river bottoms in any known examples
What is important there is the difference in age between the oldest and youngest deposits. Again, if the material REALLY was from a flood, what is the flood mechanism, model, process, method or procedure that sorted the material to deposit the oldest on the bottom and the youngest on top.

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Message 1533 of 2370 (869527)
12-31-2019 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1532 by Percy
12-31-2019 5:34 PM


But when there is REAL evidence and even Witnesses...
Yeah but I took my daughter to the Cabbage Patch in Cleveland, Georgia and she saw her baby get born from a cabbage. And that was not even the New Babyland General Hospital but the REAL Cabbage Patch.

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Message 1558 of 2370 (869634)
01-02-2020 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1557 by Faith
01-02-2020 3:52 PM


Re: Land sediments sandwiched between marine sediments
Faith writes:
In reality they were all deposited by the Flood water no matter what their original location.
And yet neither you or any other human being has ever been able to provide the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that would allow your absolutely stupid flood to produce the evidence that exists in reality.
Sorry Faith but ALL of the evidence does show that neither of the Biblical Floods ever happened and in fact the conventional theory does provide the model, method, mechanism, process AND procedure that does explain the evidence that exists in reality.
No one who has a basis connection to reality believes that either of the Biblical Floods (or Garden of Eden or Exodus or Conquest of Canaan or ... ) ever actually happened. Only those sad deplorable people who have no connection whatsoever to reality believe nonsense like the Biblical Flood Myths.

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jar
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Message 1566 of 2370 (869682)
01-03-2020 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1565 by Faith
01-03-2020 5:43 PM


Re: layers don’t represent time periods
Faith writes:
So you think the creatures lived on top of it and died and got buried in it? This is too tiresome.
No Faith, basics. Try to learn the basics.
The evidence shows conclusively us that stuff was living on the material deposited during each period. All the same types of stuff we find living on that type of material today. All types of stuff; plants, animals, birds, bees, creepy crawlies, grasses, mosses, trees, ...
It's not a matter of what we think, it is a matter of what ALL of the evidence shows.
Basics Faith. Learn the basics and throw away the truly silly stuff like the Flood or Creationism or the Christianity you try to market.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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jar
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Message 1588 of 2370 (869733)
01-05-2020 8:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1584 by Faith
01-05-2020 2:06 AM


Basics Faith, learn the basics.
Faith writes:
You are not going to get a straight flat slab of rock lithified under tons of dirt, that is then going to become just one straight flat slab of rock in a whole stack of straight flat slabs or rock.
But once again reality points out that you simply ignore the evidence.
The Geologic column is not just straight flat slabs of rock and you have been shown the actual evidence to support that fact and simply refuse to acknowledge truth or reality.

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Message 1611 of 2370 (876956)
05-30-2020 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1608 by dad
05-30-2020 5:00 PM


Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
... there is NO science in the Bible.
We can begin with the fact that only an utter fool would believe that Genesis 1 was a creation tale.
Since the absurdities in Genesis 1 can be discarded by anyone who has had at least a third grade education a reasonable person would ask why the author of Genesis 1 wrote such utter nonsense in the format of a Creation Myth.
Once we can place Genesis 1 within the realm of reality we can move on to the next fantasy.

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jar
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Message 2032 of 2370 (880424)
08-05-2020 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2027 by Phat
08-05-2020 2:13 PM


Re: Critical Thinkers, Trolls,Atheists & Believers
Phat writes:
What I'm trying to get him to see is the different thought process demanded in our Science Forums.
It's not different thought processes Phat, it is that those who believe such nonsense as the Biblical Flood simply have never learned how to think. He is quite frankly just incapable of thought or honesty or reality.
It's pitiful but true.

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Message 2136 of 2370 (881099)
08-18-2020 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 2135 by ringo
08-18-2020 9:38 AM


Re: Time scales
Plus we can and have examined humans that lived long before Noah (if Noah ever existed) as well as humans that lived after Noah (and even humans that would have lived right during the Biblical Flood if either of the Biblical Floods had ever happened).
We don't have to speculate, we have direct remains of humans that we have examined that would have been alive about the time of Adam (if Adam had ever really existed).

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jar
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Message 2212 of 2370 (881448)
08-24-2020 11:57 AM
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08-24-2020 9:31 AM


Re: Time scales
It's interesting that we now have additional information of the Iraq stone structures called mustatils (rectangles) showing they were constructed about 7000 years ago or pretty much contemporary with Adam & Eve. Seems that after they left the garden they were busy little beavers.
Makes you wonder when "Don't fence me in" was actually written.

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jar
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Message 2222 of 2370 (881468)
08-24-2020 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 2220 by Juvenissun
08-24-2020 5:15 PM


Re: Time scales
Adam never existed so it's as totally silly to assume a life span as it is to assume what Gandalf's life span might be.
And we don't have to speculate about anything as utterly stupid as your year length nonsense.
If and when you show that you are capable of even elementary school level science then maybe, just maybe we could hold a discussion.

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jar
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Message 2234 of 2370 (881484)
08-24-2020 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2227 by Juvenissun
08-24-2020 5:35 PM


Re: Time scales
jar writes:
According to you, the Flood never exist. Are you saying all people who made thousands of posts to argue about the Flood are utterly stupid?
That's certainly one of the possibilities but they are also very likely simply totally and completely disconnected from truth and reality but also many of the major proponents are simply liars.

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jar
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Message 2245 of 2370 (881502)
08-24-2020 8:47 PM
Reply to: Message 2243 by Juvenissun
08-24-2020 8:35 PM


Re: Time scales
Basics.
Try to learn some basics.
The Earth got hit by something big enough to have created the moon and that did not appreciably change the orbit.
Basics.
There has NEVER been a worldwide flood at any time humans existed.
Basics.
In the beginning none of the kinds mention in the Bible existed.
Basics.
In the beginning nothing was created as male and female and even today most living things are nether male or female and of those that do show a sex there are male and female and neither male or female and one of the three choices but then later changing into a different sex or changing sex when necessary or both male and female at the same time.
Basics.
The order in the Genesis 1 Creation Myth is totally impossible and refuted by all the evidence.
Basics.
There is no science to be found in the Bible.
Basics.
There is no such thing as "The Bible" and all of the various Canon as well as all the scripture are solely the creation of human imagination.
Basics.
You really need to learn the basics.

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jar
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Message 2252 of 2370 (881532)
08-25-2020 9:26 AM
Reply to: Message 2251 by Juvenissun
08-25-2020 9:20 AM


Re: Time scales
LOL
We know that because the moon exists.
We know that because the moon is in an orbit around the Earth.
Basics child. Learn the basics.
Edited by jar, : learn has an N

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jar
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Message 2257 of 2370 (881537)
08-25-2020 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2254 by Juvenissun
08-25-2020 9:35 AM


Re: Time scales
LOL
Basics. Really learn the basics.
Our moon is made of the same materials as the Earth.

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jar
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Message 2260 of 2370 (881540)
08-25-2020 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 2256 by Juvenissun
08-25-2020 9:57 AM


Re: Time scales
juv writes:
If the Himalayan Mts. suddenly collapsed into the Indian Ocean, would that change the earth orbit a little bit? I think it would.
Another truly stupid idea.
No, it would not change the Earths orbit at all.
Really. Learn some of the basics.
You do know that the Himalayan mountains WERE under water until relatively recently and pushing them suckers up did not change Earths orbit. They are one of the youngest mountain ranges on Earth.

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